Been tiling for awhile now and have had good feedback from customers on jobs done however im not that busy all the time and the cost of an nvq seems high. I only do domestic work so would i need it or is it just if you work on site? plus if i do can i offset the cost against my tax? Any advise would be much appreciated guys.

Is this needing an NVQ business by 2010 a roumour or fact, i know it's been banded about the forum a bit latley, but I dont seem to be able to find anything on the web that suggests that it's becoming mandatory.

You will need a NVQ to get a CSCS card. You will need a CSCS card to get on site. “FACT”

And if you dont do site work?

If you don't do site work then it may not affect you as much, however who is to say that insurance companies etc won't start demanding it, but as of now it shouldn't really affect the domestic market too much.

Originally Posted by Essex Tiling

It is a fact , you will not be able to get your CSCS card without one and you will find it harder and harder to get on site or into domestic households without your NVQ Level 2 by 2010. At the moment the government is backing this and is offering funding for un qualified people to gain their NVQ Level 2. the funding is through Train To Gain and as long as you dont have any previous qualifications and under 5 GCSEs then it will be free of charge. Good luck and get qualified

Any idea of the cost, for someone like myself, i have a levels so wont qualify for the funding, i also have a full time job as well as the tiling.

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Forget that, found a CSCS test centre not too far from me, £25.00 for the test only, the missus can get me a copy of the study book from work gratis.

Originally Posted by Essex Tiling

Cost wise if you have to pay for it will usually be between £800 - £1000 depending on who you choose to use . Sounds like a lot to fork out but well worth it , when everyone who didnt bother getting one cant work and you can carry on.

I think not getting one would be a bad move

Good luck

Cheers for the info, i'll have to look into a course.

Do you think site work will be easier or more rewarding once 2010 comes, with fewer people being able to work on site, also could this have a bad effect on domestic tilers as usual site tilers who don't want the hassle of getting qualified will mussle in on domestic work?

Dont know myself but for a guess I bet half the site workers now days havent got a valid british passport never ming a cscs card and the still get work.

Originally Posted by deanotile

You will need a NVQ to get a CSCS card. You will need a CSCS card to get on site. “FACT”

i've just done my cscs card scheme & i've not got an NVQ in tiling, so i'm not sure you have your “FACTS” correct there m8

Originally Posted by CLAYS TILES

i've just done my cscs card scheme & i've not got an NVQ in tiling, so i'm not sure you have your “FACTS” correct there m8

You now have one year to get your NVQ otherwise you will not be able to renew your CSCS card FACT.

I'm on the understanding that domestic work is still classed as on-site with many training centres, insurance firms and the governing bodies that set these accreditation standards.

Clearly the first step is to enforce it on building sites (new builds) as that's manageable. It's harder to enforce when you can tile Mrs Jones' kitchen providing you have the skill and tools - but when it comes to claiming on your insurance I'd like to think you could still claim - but it's debatable.

I'd consider it a selling point for your firm. Just think if there are 50 tilers in your area but 5 saying they are NVQ'd up. Just think who will have the edge on the quotes?

The only way it will work in the domestic market is to educate the general public. This is best don in my humble opinion through the media TV shows like
rouge traders.

cscs card last 4 years if you have renewed this year its valid till 2012

And you dont need to pay 800 to 1000 pound for nvq you can can go down the site assesment route

that is if you have been tiling long enough me im a dinosaur 25years in

Originally Posted by smurf21

that is if you have been tiling long enough me im a dinosaur 25years in

4 years would be long enough though surley? so anyone who gets the cscs card now, would have 4 years in when it came to renewal time.

I'll have to get the test done and get myself a card sorted, failing to plan after all is planning to fail, as they say.

osat on site assesment and training including NVQ ,health and safty test , and free cscs card £512.oo

Originally Posted by smurf21

osat on site assesment and training including NVQ ,health and safty test , and free cscs card £512.oo

Who does this?

citb construction skills

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news but a CSCS card is only valid for one year unless you have a NVQ

I'm confused......

I passed CSCS test in November 2007.
I've just checked my card and it says "Expires end Jan 2013".

In my confused state that means it is valid for 5 years and there is absolutely no mention of an NVQ requirement.

Does anyone know for sure what the ruling is????

Oliver Farrell, National Training Advisoroliver.farrell@cskills.org this man is the man with the answers 07771 542 431

So if ive been working 18 years, served 3 years, to work ive to go to college to have someone show how to put a 6x6 onto a gyproc wall and show me how to lace my steelys?

Lot of bllx IMO.


Ahh, but someone makes money out of it. LOL

If you’ve been tiling for five years or more you can do the O.S.A.T or E.W.P.A.R you do not have to go to collage but you do have to be assessed.

Originally Posted by tkm18

So if ive been working 18 years, served 3 years, to work ive to go to college to have someone show how to put a 6x6 onto a gyproc wall and show me how to lace my steelys?

Lot of bllx IMO.


Ahh, but someone makes money out of it. LOL

I don't think it's quite like that.

You will have 90% of your "portfolio" already made up. So it'll be a case of questions and answers I think. And with your experience you should fly though it.

You have to understand the advantages to this. It'll help get the UK tilers work. It'll help get customers jobs to a set standard. It'll help put some tilers a league ahead of those not bothering.

It's still an interesting debatable subject - but I think it's a very good thing.

Just give some of the centre's a call and have a chat, I think you'll find you'll get it quite easy with your experience.

www.tilingcoursescompanies.co.uk for some numbers to call.

Originally Posted by Dan

I don't think it's quite like that.

You will have 90% of your "portfolio" already made up. So it'll be a case of questions and answers I think. And with your experience you should fly though it.

You have to understand the advantages to this. It'll help get the UK tilers work. It'll help get customers jobs to a set standard. It'll help put some tilers a league ahead of those not bothering.

It's still an interesting debatable subject - but I think it's a very good thing.

Just give some of the centre's a call and have a chat, I think you'll find you'll get it quite easy with your experience.

www.tilingcoursescompanies.co.uk for some numbers to call.

TBF my post last night was a bit harsh, i do agree there should be regulations etc.

I can see the point of the safety one btw.

But going by the posts already made, is it going o to cost me £1k to get work?


Will have to look into it via the link.

surely training centers not offering nvq's will have to change there ways,and people that dont advitise that get all the work from recomendations wont need and nvq

Originally Posted by Captain Slow

I'm confused......

I passed CSCS test in November 2007.
I've just checked my card and it says "Expires end Jan 2013".

In my confused state that means it is valid for 5 years and there is absolutely no mention of an NVQ requirement.

Does anyone know for sure what the ruling is????

Is your card a trade specific or is it a labourer’s card eg is it blue or green

Originally Posted by rhyd4

surely training centers not offering nvq's will have to change there ways,and people that dont advitise that get all the work from recomendations wont need and nvq

At the moment it is very hard for a privet centre to get accreditation to deliver NVQ. Ask chase tiling academy about the hoops they had to jump thru. The CSCS card will not affect privet work YET.

Originally Posted by rhyd4

surely training centers not offering nvq's will have to change there ways,and people that dont advitise that get all the work from recomendations wont need and nvq

Originally Posted by deanotile

At the moment it is very hard for a privet centre to get accreditation to deliver NVQ. Ask chase tiling academy about the hoops they had to jump thru. The CSCS card will not affect privet work YET.

Both interesting comments there, and both very right. Training centre's are fidning it hard to get the right accreditation. You'll find most of the good ones have some backing from a governing body.

So just make sure you're calling the right training centre's when looking.

I think in many cases there is funding available.