Will it bring the earnings down?

[epoxy pete]

i certainly dont have a "bad taste in my mouth", as you put it,i guess im more of a realist and see things not through tinted glasses,i certainly have no problem with people trying to better there life,prospects etc..good luck to them, im all for education and skill learning...i just feel that gaining a skill in such a short period of time is a bit overzealous on these peoples part....could you bricklay,plaster,spark,joiner after these short periods of time...?? if someone wanted to learn to tile with me,id take em with me and show em for free!!!! certainly wouldnt be charging em thousands for the privelage thats for sure!!!lol....although.....nah!!!im too honest arnt i

[Leatherface]

Same here - id someone wanted to come and spend some time tiling with me, then no probs Save them a few hundred or thousand pounds. Learn more 1 to 1.

[Varley]

Originally Posted by Leatherface

I said " accreditation" for the people who are doing the training !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I agree, thats the main reason i went with North East Tiling Training when deciding where to do my course, because they issue you with a Nationlly Recognised qualification through a college.

[epoxy pete]

this falls back to the original question posed....even if these tile training places issue bits of paper stating the you have attended and trained there..does this make you experienced enough to actually go out into the work enviroment? ...i dont really think it does,could you learn to do another manual trade after such a short period of time??,i very much doubt you could.........

[Leatherface]

That is the question - any amount of training only really gives you a basis on which to get started.
You only really start to put this into practice when you get going - learn as you go - take advice from other tilers, adhesive manufacturers, learn from your own mistakes, continually improve & develop methods that suit you and most importantly give good results

[epoxy pete]

would you as a punter let someone loose on your house if he'd just finished a weeks course in a building based skill???........i for one would'nt even contemplate it...what say you leatherface???...p.s...why do they call you leatherface????

[Varley]

Originally Posted by epoxy pete

this falls back to the original question posed....even if these tile training places issue bits of paper stating the you have attended and trained there..does this make you experienced enough to actually go out into the work enviroment? ...i dont really think it does,could you learn to do another manual trade after such a short period of time??,i very much doubt you could.........

No certificate in the world makes you experienced m8, that just takes time, nobody has experience when they first start to do something new, but qualifications help (a little) to satandardise the industry, imo all trades and skills should be standardised and should be a legal requirement, stop the people who just decide one morning that they can tile then start ripping people off right left and centre doing very shoddy work because they were never taught that there is in fact a technique and knowledge involved, your not just sticking tiles to walls. So to answer your question no, a 'bit of paper' does not make me experienced, but it gives me the knowledge i need to go out and get that experience.

its just struck me! the business to get into is selling tiling tools!! all these punters coming out of 4 day training courses, its a licence to print money!! i wonder how much dave from tradertilers turnover has went up ??? kerching!!

[epoxy pete]

your very right about your last comment,but,who is it you actually practice your newly found skills on to start with?,theres only so many friends houses you can tile i guess,and how do you know if your doing something the right way first time round,with no one there to tell you different??,im sure these guys cant remember everything they have been told in a cram packed week...i certainly couldnt!!! its a much better option to attend at least a college course or similar with a realistic time frame for practical skill learning and assesment evaluation and gain a true and realistic grasp of the trade and techniques required to work within your choosen trade.

ive read a few scary things on forums recently!! one was im going to give up my 30k job and go on a tiling course!! another was looking for advice , he was fully tiling somebodys bathroom with marble and wanted to know which trowel to use?? im thinkin if you dont even know which feckin trowel to use should you really be doing this!!

Originally Posted by epoxy pete

your very right about your last comment,but,who is it you actually practice your newly found skills on to start with?,theres only so many friends houses you can tile i guess,and how do you know if your doing something the right way first time round,with no one there to tell you different??,im sure these guys cant remember everything they have been told in a cram packed week...i certainly couldnt!!! its a much better option to attend at least a college course or similar with a realistic time frame for practical skill learning and assesment evaluation and gain a true and realistic grasp of the trade and techniques required to work within your choosen trade.

I couldn't agree more mate

[Varley]

Now that i have absolutely no arguement with epoxy, bang on m8. The 4 day course i attended was absolutely spot on, but i did a lot of tiling before i ever dared to take on a payed job, i have spent a little time with more experienced tilers on a few little jobs aswell. I think it would be very foolish to come off a course and expect to be the best of the best and I certainly don't pretend to be as good as tiliers who have been doing it for years. Most of my jobs are kitchen splashbacks, kitchen, bathroom & conservatory floors, and as i posted in the gallery page have only recently took on the job of my first fully tiled bathroom as a payed job. Slowly slowly is the key, only take on jobs you know 100% you can do to a professional standard. I certainly don't practice anything on a customers job but i cannot speak for everyone.