What Kind Of Monies To Be Made ?

[Highlander]

I really think you are going to be in for a shock to the system if you are expecting to be 20k each profit in first year.

You will be coming of a course and you are going to be new blood trying to go against established tilers and against other guys that have started up thinking tiling is an easy option. Well it aint easy option even when you are established everyone is undercutting prices we have eastern europeans coming in and they are willing to do the work for buttons because they are quite happy to have 10 of them staying in a 2 bed flat so their cost of living is reduced, they often dont have insurance so they are happy to do jobs for £12 m2 or have even seen vans down south advertising £7 m2.

Sorry to put a damper on your dreams but it is reality tiling game is going to start to slow down over next few months in domestic scene as really tiling is a luxury and when the economy starts going tits up the building industry on domestic scene suffers. The Comercial side will still pick along but they will be able to start offering cheaper rates so m2 rate will go down. At the moment the top 10 house building companies are contacting contractors advising them that they would like them to drop 5% of the invoices they have already sent in.

Like I say sorry to be the guy that bursts your bubble but you need to go into this with your eyes open. I know lots of guys that have gone on courses and start up and 10 months later they are back at their old job. However there is the chance you might land lucky but think you need to make sure your business plan has worse case scenario in place.

Cheers,

Gary

[Raja]

Originally Posted by Carl Hammond

I dont want to come across as rude but how the heck can you have managed to live on these figures?

I would struggle on 20K a year big time let alone 8K-12K mate???

Is this clearly profit you made or something?

No No Mate if u don't ask u shall never know

I did not go to a training centre did a year at college and was at it 6 years in a partner ship

I also had other employment working as a door supervisor part time

And also am generally a well off individual

If you manage to make £20,000 in your first year profit each in a partnership then i wil take my hat off to u mate

[IvegotsTILE]

You will definatey struggle to earn £20,000 in your first year,it isn't going to happen if theres 2 of you.

I was slow when I started but am doing well now,but that is because I rode out the bad times and have really grafted.

[Dirrty]

Don't let all this put you off Carl, if you really want to make a go of it you will, and in the end your earnings will be what you decide. One of the good things about this site is people on here do tell it how it is, which is better than someone or some organisation just telling you what you want to hear isn't it? Nothing wrong with a reality check!

[Captain Slow]

I wish you lots of luck Carl.

I've just started and, as you will see in many of my previous posts, I have been fortunate to achieve a full workload pretty much from day one. I, initially, priced jobs on the low side so that I was earning something rather than nothing. When you couple low pricing with inexperience you sometimes only earn £50 per day (ouch!!), factor in your business start up costs and you are effectively working at a loss.

I have been fortunate and picked up a couple of labour only jobs paying a grand a week but they don't come along very often so average earnings are still low.

I'm working 7 day weeks and my speed is improving daily, but you only need one curved ball and your earnings are screwed.

Start with the attitude that you are doing something you really enjoy and take pride in, not with how much am I going to earn! The tiling courses are there to generate their own profits and are often run by individuals that have realised their knees are mashed and they can't earn like they used to, so telling guys that the realistic earnings are massive is a great way of keeping the courses booked.

I love my career choice and hope to earn some cash soon.
Best regards.

[floydyboy]

sorry to put a damper on things Carl but if you think that when you finish this course you will start to make good money think again, it has taken me years to get where i am now with a steady flow of work, and a business plan!!! they are not worth it, my step father once told me, BANKS WANTS FORECASTS A BUSINESS DOES 'NT he is a doctor of accountancy.you got to put the hours and the graft in

i wish you all the best mate

[strongboes]

Hi,

From my own personal experience I would say you could earn 20k in your first year.

You would need to work your ass off, get your work in straight away and be good enough to work in the upper end of the market from the off.

20k profit is only £384 per week if you work all 52 weeks, this is certainly do-able imo. If I didn't clear that a week I seriously wouldn't do it.

[Raja]

Originally Posted by strongboes

Hi,

From my own personal experience I would say you could earn 20k in your first year.

You would need to work your ass off, get your work in straight away and be good enough to work in the upper end of the market from the off.

20k profit is only £384 per week if you work all 52 weeks, this is certainly do-able imo. If I didn't clear that a week I seriously wouldn't do it.

Wales is the place to be then

[floydyboy]

Plenty of work down here in Wales for you Raja!!

I think £384 is chicken feed and you need to aim for at least 5OO a week
for any trade on the books should be 160-180 a day and cash about 120 all of witch are easily achieved with exsperience

[Raja]

Originally Posted by floydyboy

Plenty of work down here in Wales for you Raja!!

I think £384 is chicken feed and you need to aim for at least 5OO a week
for any trade on the books should be 160-180 a day and cash about 120 all of witch are easily achieved with exsperience

I know what u mean mate

In Sheffield it is well and truely saturated

Unless u r in bed witha tile shop owner Forget it

Cheap workforce willing to work at novice rates

and at times third world rates kicking in when the polish brothers decide to have a go

[strongboes]

Originally Posted by Raja

Wales is the place to be then

Plenty of sheep here for you too Raja!

[Raja]

Originally Posted by strongboes

Plenty of sheep here for you too Raja!

Thank u my welsh brother wil b down soon