How do you set out a full bathroom ?

[Leatherface]

Guys - Bathroom walls ?
just out of curiosity - what methods do people use to set out ? How do they decide where to put their first course of tiles ?
I have my own method & know it works. This discussion may enlighten a few of the new guys out there

[yoza 114]

set out from a focul point window bath toilet all depends on lay out ov room. then measure tile + grout line then set out top 2 bottom 2 check out the cuts in corners + top + bottom

Pick a spot, drop the tile on it and mark the wall. Then get your laser level and mark the room perimeter out. Work your first course strictly to that line.

The check the spirit of that first course. If all ok (it should be), bang em on all day long!!

Factors affecting : cuts around windows / end cuts. - Obviously adjust accordingly. Using a home made tile staff will quickly identify these areas anyway.

Plus, I always wip the basin and toilet out then put it back all sealed and piped in correctly.

For the perfect job!!

[yoza 114]

dont ucheck your coner cuts

Yes I do, as it says in the description. Using a tile staff will enable you to work out where the best cuts are. Or you can do it the hard way and mark the tile across the wall / floor to see where the best cut is.

I forgot to mention about the bath too. Best to go a full tile from the bath upwards wherever possible.

Well thats what I do anyway...

[Leatherface]

Well here's how I do it.

1. Mark a straight line around the room at any height - usually half way. This line is the datum line ( or reference point )
2. Find the highest ceiling point & lowest floor point - First to the ceiling - use a staff and go around the room at 2 ft intervals, marking the staff where it meets the line at every point. You will end up with a series of marks on the staff -the distance between lowest & highest is the amount that your ceiling runs out. Repeat for the floor.
Knowing this will enable you to make sure that the cuts at ceiling & floor do not end up as sliver cuts.
3. Make a staff with tile & grout lines for vertical set up.
4. Choose a point where you would like to start tiling.
5. Mark staff against datum line from this point & go around the room checking what size of cuts there will be at door, window, shower, ceiling & floor height.
6. If you are not happy with any then adjust accordingly until you are happy. You will then know ( & be able to explain to the customer ) - why you have started there. It is always nice to start full tile around the bath - but not at the expense of having, for example a tiny raked cut at ceiling height.
7. Use staff also to check horizontal cuts.

Start tiling in the knowledge that there will be no nasty surprises along the way.

[georgetknight]

how do you set out floors then to ask the question

Originally Posted by Leatherface

Well here's how I do it.

1. Mark a straight line around the room at any height - usually half way. This line is the datum line ( or reference point )
2. Find the highest ceiling point & lowest floor point - First to the ceiling - use a staff and go around the room at 2 ft intervals, marking the staff where it meets the line at every point. You will end up with a series of marks on the staff -the distance between lowest & highest is the amount that your ceiling runs out. Repeat for the floor.
Knowing this will enable you to make sure that the cuts at ceiling & floor do not end up as sliver cuts.
3. Make a staff with tile & grout lines for vertical set up.
4. Choose a point where you would like to start tiling.
5. Mark staff against datum line from this point & go around the room checking what size of cuts there will be at door, window, shower, ceiling & floor height.
6. If you are not happy with any then adjust accordingly until you are happy. You will then know ( & be able to explain to the customer ) - why you have started there. It is always nice to start full tile around the bath - but not at the expense of having, for example a tiny raked cut at ceiling height.
7. Use staff also to check horizontal cuts.

Start tiling in the knowledge that there will be no nasty surprises along the way.

ffs what do you do on day 2???

[Leatherface]

What do I do on day ? - I don't understand question.

Floors - I use two straight edges and a Rubi square - find the best line to take - off units or wall - figure out best line. Then use staff on floor to determine cts.
It doesn't matter if there are 10 rooms going off each other - I square off into each room - draw a line. Then with my staff work out where my cuts are in each room. Adjust - if there are to be any small cuts I decide where they will go.
Simple

I think he means it will take him all day to do that Nick lol

[Leatherface]

Oh I geddit - practice makes perfect - it doesn't take that long wehen you've been doing it for awhile. Anyway, as you know, time spent in preparation saves time in correcting mistakes later.
Have you got that disc yet ?
Give me a bell if you want one ? Just need digi photo's & text
Cheers Nick

[Dan]

The key to setting out is to know exactly where every cut will be and what size approx. The methods of doing this have changed a few times over the years and now there's a few ways of getting your first tile in place but really, aslong as you know you're not going to be snipping away bits of tiles for the whole job trying and testing everywhere, you should be fine.

Generally on bathroom walls you've got the bath, window, maybe the basin as your main guides trying to get each of those to look spot on, like there's no better setout. Then genrally you're adjusting those slightly to make the internal corners fit in well etc etc.

I find.