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Old 18-01-2008   #1
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Default How would you lay a combination of glass mosaic and 400x 300 ceramic tiles?

Heres the problem: the customer sprang the following tile on me after the job started. Ceramic tile 300 x 400 x 8mm thick, laid landscape with a glass mosaic trim tile 250 x 400 x 3mm thick laid 1/3rd up the wall between large tiles in a bathroom with a power shower. My question is this: how would you lay the glass trim tile so it was at the same surface level as the field tile to comply with the BS 2mm over 2 meters rule?
Second question: With square section alloy edge trim, in a half tiled room how would you finish the horizontal and vertical EXTERNAL corners e.g. ? We find that 45 degree miters leave a dangerously sharp edge especially around the window reveal?
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Default Re: How would you lay a combination of glass mosaic and 400x 300 ceramic tiles?

would get a cheapo tile mate and cut to same size as trim and then tile behind the trim thus bringing it out to the same size as the field tiles


if tiles are 8mm and trim is 3mm then u need a 4 - 5 mm tile to put behind, beware that youi dont use to much mix as can pack out extra thick
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Default Re: How would you lay a combination of glass mosaic and 400x 300 ceramic tiles?

OK good idea I might try that if there is ever a next time with mosaic's!
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Default Re: How would you lay a combination of glass mosaic and 400x 300 ceramic tiles?

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Heres the problem: the customer sprang the following tile on me after the job started. Ceramic tile 300 x 400 x 8mm thick, laid landscape with a glass mosaic trim tile 250 x 400 x 3mm thick laid 1/3rd up the wall between large tiles in a bathroom with a power shower. My question is this: how would you lay the glass trim tile so it was at the same surface level as the field tile to comply with the BS 2mm over 2 meters rule?
Second question: With square section alloy edge trim, in a half tiled room how would you finish the horizontal and vertical EXTERNAL corners e.g. ? We find that 45 degree miters leave a dangerously sharp edge especially around the window reveal?
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You may be able to get proprietory angle pieces which do away with mitre cuts.

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Default Re: How would you lay a combination of glass mosaic and 400x 300 ceramic tiles?

alright mate, using to tiles to pack out with is bad code of practice. Now to do a proper job u need to get some contruction board or even no more ply at 6mm thick attach to the wall with adhesive this will be flat and then use a 3mm notched trowel which will give you a solid bed of around 1mm

So the Hybrid board =6mm + 1mm after fixed = 7mm thats 1 mm short from the 8mm, don't worry because when you fix the hybrid use the correct bed adhesive to make up the difference. I guess you have used a 5mm notched trowel.

6mm notch trowel in dry areas horizonatal direction when trowelled.
8mm notch trowel in wet Area vertical direction when trowelled.
The above is what weber suggest in conjunction with the TA.

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Default Re: How would you lay a combination of glass mosaic and 400x 300 ceramic tiles?

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would get a cheapo tile mate and cut to same size as trim and then tile behind the trim thus bringing it out to the same size as the field tiles


if tiles are 8mm and trim is 3mm then u need a 4 - 5 mm tile to put behind, beware that youi dont use to much mix as can pack out extra thick
Thats what i do, and in fact most tile shops have some scrap boxes of cheap tiles in their store room which they will probably just give you (at least my tile shop did) just to get rid of them.

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Default Re: How would you lay a combination of glass mosaic and 400x 300 ceramic tiles?

metal trim i know what you mean there is one of two things can be done here is to use corner pieces or if you have a really fine file and emery paper you can make the edge really smooth and round without damaging the trims finish
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Default Re: How would you lay a combination of glass mosaic and 400x 300 ceramic tiles?

schluter ditra range is massive in terms of trim and finishes,awesome gear.its the ££££s that could swing it though.got their new catalogue through yesterday... im a big fan
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Schluter is top quality and costs a lot also. But its the aston martin of tile trims
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Default Re: How would you lay a combination of glass mosaic and 400x 300 ceramic tiles?

Tell them to get the border the same thickness as the overall tile, that's what I do and in most cases they agree.
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Default Re: How would you lay a combination of glass mosaic and 400x 300 ceramic tiles?

whitebeam is correct, but if the customer wants it they will have to pay for the prep work. And if done correct its a proper job :0

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