slim line

[dave l and l]

has anyone fitted the the b & q slim line 600 x 300
had a customer ask me to fit them but sure how good the quality is

[waseem]

Ive just bought these too from b&q.
slim porcelain 30x600 in Ivory.

Im not sure about fitting and cutting them.

[Dave]

Not seen them yet lads

[dave l and l]

let me know how you get on when fitting them. i wont be doing job for a while yet

[widler]

are these the ones i saw in b&q last year,a big sign saying 'b&q thin tiles,especially designed for tiling over tiles'

[dave l and l]

not sure if they say tile over tile but they are from b&q. they say for wall and floor but i am slightly uncomfortable with the idea that something so thin should go on the floor

[MissTiler]

I wouldnt be too sure about putting them on the floor either, would definately need a solid bed of adhesive underneath and probably on a concrete base. Theyre alot lighter than usual thickness 60 x 30 porc which suits me lol

[Discount Tile Supplies]

60x30 slim tiles in B&Q are mad by RAK Ceramics. Quality should be good as its RAK. Just be careful as they may bow if you spread adhesive too thick as with any powder type adhesive you will get some shrinkage.

Doubt you should use for floor, may be ok solid bed though on concrete. ( have a look on rak web site)

Thin/slim porcelain tiles are a big thing at the moment in comercial applications, ie over tilling weight reduced.

B&Q testing the waters with it but i reckon it wont last so buy enough to do the job!

Edd

[ray t t]

the best way to cut the thin tiles is to scibe lightly snap with your fingers when using adhesives need to be alittle bit wetter not so stiff a good adhesives by tilemaster light weight standard ok to tile floors need to get full coverage b&q tiles look down long edge tend to curl slitly for thin tiles look up porcel-thin let me know what you think will post some pictures latter of my work

[dave l and l]

yeah guy phoned so going round to discuss start date, he has already got tiles so i will just let him know the score witht he tile and a strat date. i will post pics so you can have a look at job when its done and tell you how they were for fitting

[jjoc]

I came across these the other day, 4.8mm they were and the guy had them to go on walls an floor. they look flimsy to me to say the least and I'd be hesitant about fitting them on a floor and any wall that is not perfect. overall conclusion - didnt like them !

[EverDon Tiling]

are these the ones i saw in b&q last year,a big sign saying 'b&q thin tiles,especially designed for tiling over tiles'

they did quote they are designed for tiling over tiles.

[nybor62]

what size trowel do you intend using for these tiles

[dave l and l]

to be honest not sure what size of trowel. i will need to get a look at them first i have only had a glance. also not seen the bathroom walls either. be happy with any suggestions. i will express my issue with tiles on floor.

[ray t t]

i use 8mm trowel on 4.8 mm tiles gives good coverige when cutting scibe lightly snap with fingers tile on tile on tile as long as the tiles you are tilling on are sound and flat very fast to tile i have tiled many diffrent tiles just ajusted my methods its just a tile no more no less lett the tile know your the boss

[nybor62]

so you over tile on tiles , not good practice im afraid imo,

[ray t t]

tilers have been tiling over tiles for years. have tiled many hotels where tiling over for the third time. tiled over many tiled floors fast food outlets commen practice to tile over tiles maybe this is more common down south. where time is always a factor. to take up a well laid floor make good for tilling cost a lot in time and money when you are shop fitting .never had any problems with this on domestic or contract work .tile over tilling at least once every 3 months .first tiled over tiles 25 years ago

[dave l and l]

dont like tiling over tiles, preference is to re sheet walls, never tiled over floor tiles in fact i didnt you could do that as the addy never bonds well enough,
had a look in b&q at tiles and they look pretty flimsy, the guys bathroom i am doing is a kit house so it should be wooden floor with plenty deflection, i have heard thats excellent for laying flimsy thin tiles onto

[EverDon Tiling]

tilers have been tiling over tiles for years. have tiled many hotels where tiling over for the third time. tiled over many tiled floors fast food outlets commen practice to tile over tiles maybe this is more common down south. where time is always a factor. to take up a well laid floor make good for tilling cost a lot in time and money when you are shop fitting .never had any problems with this on domestic or contract work .tile over tilling at least once every 3 months .first tiled over tiles 25 years ago

Tiling over for a third time. Wouldn't there be an issue with weight here?

[jay]

tilers have been tiling over tiles for years. have tiled many hotels where tiling over for the third time. tiled over many tiled floors fast food outlets commen practice to tile over tiles maybe this is more common down south. where time is always a factor. to take up a well laid floor make good for tilling cost a lot in time and money when you are shop fitting .never had any problems with this on domestic or contract work .tile over tilling at least once every 3 months .first tiled over tiles 25 years ago

questions
1 how do you determine that the substrate can carry 3 layers of tiles and adh

2 how do you know the first layer of tiles are secure

3 same goes for the second layer

4 if it fails and someone gets hurt are you prepared to take responsibility and pay compensation .

sound pretty stupid to me that's my opinion others may have different views

[deankyall]

mapei do primers for tiling over tiles,also adhesives ,try fasflex REMOVEDt,as he said tilers have been doing it for years,not always practical to take up a floor,check its solid first.

dont like tiling over tiles, preference is to re sheet walls, never tiled over floor tiles in fact i didnt you could do that as the addy never bonds well enough,
had a look in b&q at tiles and they look pretty flimsy, the guys bathroom i am doing is a kit house so it should be wooden floor with plenty deflection, i have heard thats excellent for laying flimsy thin tiles onto

[NVH Stone & Cer]

Boys, I will get the pictures up at some point this week. A friend of mine was having a lot of building work to his new house. So the bathroom work was in the quote. He had me in to tile 150m2 of floors. Any way he had new 1200x600x4.8mm wall tiles and I must say it did look ok, grouting needed re-doing. Any way the problem started when the shower tray needed to be raised two inches. So to help out I said I would take the tiles of round the tray area. My god as I cut the grout line one of the tiles just shattered like glass and the other two just came away from the wall.

PROBLEMS
1, The building company made my friend go and get the adhesive. So he came back with a ready mix wall and grout mix from B and Q (friends not to know).
2, The plastering was so bad.
3, No primer was used anywhere.
4, THIS IS THE BEST BIT. Every tile was dot and dabbed. We are talking 30 to 40 blobs per tile.

It took me and my friend 20 minutes to take 25m2 of the tiles off the walls and we only smashed one and that was when I slipped and my elbow went through it. All the wall just looked like the kids had snow balled it.

The funny things is when the builder came back to the job to finish other work. He had the balls to say I did know what I was talking about and it was safe and the adhesive would go off (been done two weeks and not a dry blob). He said I must need the work to stick my nose in. He just did not see the main point that it was so dangerous, not if but where the tiles start falling off. He told me he had been building 35 years and my tiling for 18 years means nothing. I did point out I may be 36 years young and look good for my age. But put a tile, adhesive and a bathroom in front of me and no builder is going to know more that me.

Trust me I could not build a house, but put a tile in my hands and I know what to do with it.

I will get the pictures up soon

[deankyall]

in fact eco prim t and eco prim grip both suitable,keraflex easy adhesive can be used as long as the old floor is stuck solid,
i await the responses...................

[Sir Ramic]

in fact eco prim t and eco prim grip both suitable,keraflex easy adhesive can be used as long as the old floor is stuck solid,
i await the responses...................

The primer is fine , its the original tiles that will be the issue

[deankyall]

try fastflex,sticks really well to tiles,absolutely great,like chewing gum to a shoe ,
is that a better analogy?? as my post was edited !!!!

[deankyall]

as i said always make sure they are well bonded first

The primer is fine , its the original tiles that will be the issue

[Dave]

as i said always make sure they are well bonded first

How do you check for this.?..

[ray t t]

to check for bonding i will always run a solid metal spanner up and down every tile i will listen for the sounds coming back if lose a hollow sound will come back stands out a mile. i will always chop one or two tiles out to double check .before tilling over tile .ps with the cost of chopping down and making good can come to more than the cost of new tiles and tiling .in these hard times it can be the difference between doing a job or not .

[deankyall]

Same way every tiler I know does,try and take them off,have you never tiled on tiles Dave?

How do you check for this.?..

[deankyall]

Your absolutely correct in what you say,I would say that to remove all old tiles,clear from site ,repeater or make good walls,most people are horrified with the cost,that's why if they have to come off ill encourage them to take a weekend to do it,save themselves a few hundred quid,but I've never ever had a call back when I've tiled on tiles.a lot of the old flats and houses round here were fixed sand and cement no chance them coming off

to check for bonding i will always run a solid metal spanner up and down every tile i will listen for the sounds coming back if lose a hollow sound will come back stands out a mile. i will always chop one or two tiles out to double check .before tilling over tile .ps with the cost of chopping down and making good can come to more than the cost of new tiles and tiling .in these hard times it can be the difference between doing a job or not .