tile detail at doorway / threshold

[simonjay]

I've not found a general answer to address this in the sticky posts or after a quick search.

I will be tiling a room that has the door casings and no architrave or skirtings yet. The tiles are on the door side of the casing, and you would expect the door when shut to line up with the front of the casing.
The floor surface on the other side of the door will be carpet, but the height is unknown at present as it depends on carpet / underlay etc.
So I will have to leave the threshold detail until later, which rules out any of the threshold bars that are bedded into the adhesive under the first row of tiles. Anyway, we may want a wooden theshold !

So onto the real question.

Is it usual to cut the first row of tiles into the doorway about 20mm, such that the tile edge is under the middle of the door when it is shut ?
In this case you would have a grout line between the side of the tile and the door reveal (unless you cut partly into the door casing to hide it).

Or just do the easier thing and tile up to the door casing (which is in line with the rest of the wall, and will be covered by skirting / architrave ?
This might be tidier but you would probably see the threshold or a carpet edge peeping under the door when it was shut.

I suppose the general rule still holds that tiles should not be fitted hard up against any part of the door casing, but a grout line left to allow for expansion.

Details like this would probably never be noticed in real life, but you still have to consider them !

Thanks,
Simon.

[charlie1]

The tiles shuold be cut so there under the door (half way)...not in line! hope this answers your question,

[John Benton]

I always take the tile approx 6mm into the door casing (door side) so that any trim can overlap the tile and will go underneath the door. I never run a full tile along the wall and then just have a slither within the casing. Looks awful as you enter into a room as its the first thing you see on the floor

[Bri]

I always take the tile approx 6mm into the door casing (door side) so that any trim can overlap the tile and will go underneath the door. I never run a full tile along the wall and then just have a slither within the casing. Looks awful as you enter into a room as its the first thing you see on the floor

Exactly how I do it. If the two floor coverings go halfway under the door, there is no room for any threshold strip to sit.

[Mike]

I go about 10/12 mm under the door and the carpet /flooring comes in the same amount from the other side leaving about 12mm for the door strip channel.



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[simonjay]

Thanks guys,
It will be cut tiles into the doorway anyway, so I'll leave them until last,
but take them about 12mm into the doorway.

Would anyone try to cut them into the side of the casing, or just have a grout line
there ?
Obviously elsewere the edges will be covered by architrave or skirting.

By the way, whats the "thanking" and "liking" etiquette here?
If I'd "like" and "thank" every post it would become meaningless !

Simon.

[charlie1]

Thanks guys,
It will be cut tiles into the doorway anyway, so I'll leave them until last,
but take them about 12mm into the doorway.

Would anyone try to cut them into the side of the casing, or just have a grout line
there ?
Obviously elsewere the edges will be covered by architrave or skirting.

By the way, whats the "thanking" and "liking" etiquette here?
If I'd "like" and "thank" every post it would become meaningless !

Simon.

i like that lol

[Bri]

Leave a 2mm gap up to the door casings then fill with silicone to match your grout colour. With regards to the 'like' and 'thanks', if you think a post has been helpful with regards to a question asked then 'thanks', if someone has made a point that you agree with then 'like'. Either or it doesn't matter that much, we just like good manners, especially me and Rich

[John Benton]

Would anyone try to cut them into the side of the casing, or just have a grout line
there ?
Obviously elsewere the edges will be covered by architrave or skirting.

I turn a tile upside down, lay it on 4 x 4mm spacers and use my Bosch multi-tool to just cut out the bottom of the casing. That way the spacer is the allowance for adhesive thickness, and the tile slides underneath the casing - No grout joint, no silicon, just a nice clean finish. Looks like the tiles were fitted first and the casing afterwards. Same principal if the architrave is already in position.

[simonjay]

I turn a tile upside down, lay it on 4 x 4mm spacers and use my Bosch multi-tool to just cut out the bottom of the casing. That way the spacer is the allowance for adhesive thickness, and the tile slides underneath the casing - No grout joint, no silicon, just a nice clean finish. Looks like the tiles were fitted first and the casing afterwards. Same principal if the architrave is already in position.

If you were tiling only part of the way across the door casing, and the floor covering for the next part of the floor had not been specified, would you cut a "box" out of the casing to take the tile, or cut a channel all the way across ?
Either way, I've got a bosch multi-tool too, so it would be easy to use the plunge cutter to cut a little way across and chisel out where the channel stops.

Simon.

[John Benton]

This pic may help. No archi fitted yet but you can see the joiner has been about with all the sawdust. Why don't people ever clean up.

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[simonjay]

This pic may help. No archi fitted yet but you can see the joiner has been about with all the sawdust. Why don't people ever clean up.

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Oh, of course, I've got you. Rather neat.
Thanks,
Simon.

[Mike]

i'd have gone in a bit more john in case the customer opts for a 30mm trim, it probably wouldn't cover the tile then.

[John Benton]

I nearly always supply the trim that's 38mm wide with a hidden fixing system. It allows for floors up to 14mm difference in height and they look tasty too

[Bathfix Bob]

This pic may help. No archi fitted yet but you can see the joiner has been about with all the sawdust. Why don't people ever clean up.

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Why should the joiner clean up his mess when he can just leave it for you to clean?