Help!: Rplacing shower tiles now face a big problem

[Iain79]

Hi all
Right i have a big problem... I have taken 9 tiles of the side of the bath without damaging the other tiles.. I doing this because the tiles were lose and grout was crack and have been for about 2 years.. this is where i find myself being an idot for leaving it too long.. the adisive (not sure if that how you spell it) came off on the tiles so the plaster bored is intact.. or plaster on top of it is... But it damp and very damp if you ask me... been told the whole lot need to be rip out and replace will cost me a fourtune.. but this wasnt from a builder it from my father in-law.. will have to save a while to do this.. but is this a possible soloution below

Let it dry out for about a week
the re tile it???
mean i have to bath all week

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[Bri]

Hate to say it but, your father in law is spot on. A lot of water damage there and I'd say it will be the same behind the other tiles.

[Mike]

the plasterboard is ruined and needs replacing. you may get away with removing just a few rows till you get to some solid /dry board. it won't cost a lot to do, an 8 by 4 plasterboard is only a fiver and by the looks them tiles are 150 x 150 whites so only cheap too. you'll be wasting your time and money by retiling on that board

[Mike]

Hate to say it but, your father in law is spot on. A lot of water damage there and I'd say it will be the same behind the other tiles.

bah, beat me to it bri

[ROBSON MCGREGOR]

Hi Iain,

Honestly that needs ripped out & replaced, that is quite a bit of water ingress that will have traveled up behind your tiles & probably down below your bath also.

You could let it dry out & replace the tiles but you are only going to be covering up the problem you have.

[John Benton]

Hi Iain

I reckon your father-in-law is right. It looks rotten behind there. Is it just the long side of the bath? Plasterboard is not that expensive and wouldn't need to be skimmed. Can you still get the tiles?

[whitebeam]

The plasterboard would have sucked in the water like a sponge, as above that will need replacing..

[nybor62]

as all above im afraid, dont slam the bath door you might cause an avalanch of tiles

[Iain79]

ok will i need to plaster on top off the plasting bored as it seems it was before and i can do that!!! but hey ho thanks for the head up

[whitebeam]

If your replacing plasterboard to tile onto no need to skim it...

[John Benton]

Plasterboard is not that expensive and wouldn't need to be skimmed.

Nah don't bother, only adds cost and drying time as well

[jay]

Best bet to remove and re do (make sure tile spacers are removed this time) you may want to think about some form of waterproofing as i am guessing there is a shower over the bath ,good luck

[Iain79]

yes there is a shower where it realy bad it that where the water was hitting.... gonna cut it out and replace... water got in because crack in grount and left it for 2 years... i teaken above tile look dry but feels wet i up load a pic u think i should cut the ones above off too????Attachment 0photo.jpgphoto.jpg

[whitebeam]

I've seen timber stud work totally obliterated with long term leaks....

[jay]

Then your father in-law was right you need to remove and re board (could use a waterproof backer board) or plaster and tank patching a small area is a temp fix

[Iain79]

Not want to do a temp fix gonna replace the plaster bored.. The plaster bored stops at top of the bath... yesturday i cut a bit out & it was really soft. Hoping to find a wood frame behind it to my horror nope.. brick wall behind it and looks as thou the put some sort of cement blob over the wall to hold the plaster bored!!!

1) What do i do to get the new plaster bored to stick up??

Also we had a leak under bath only found out as i wanted to see the damge below the bath and yep water got down the back.. further away from the shower you go the better it looks (DRY) The leak was from the watse pipe from the bath i can fix this meself not a problem but is quite wet.. Thanks god we had concreate floor... so gonna give a week to dry.. but the wall at the back under bath is damp so i assume because i cant get to it just let it dry out as it hidden & not like it holding anything.. only wanted to replace a few tiles this is a nightmare!!!

[David Dudley]

Stick the plasterboard with Drywall Adhesive. You can get a bag from most building merchants/DIY stores for about 7quid.

Best way is to cut the board to the required size, then butter several dobbs of adhesive directly to the brick wall behind. Then offer up the plasterboard and gently push into the adhesive, use a spirit level to make sure it's plumb and level.

[bobbynz]

[QUOTE=Iain79;573562]yes there is a shower where it realy bad it that where the water was hitting.... gonna cut it out and replace... water got in because crack in grount and left it for 2 years... i teaken above tile look dry but feels wet i up load a pic u think i should cut the ones above off too????

The water didnt get in because of the crack in the grout. The water got in because there was no waterproofing. Even if you dry it all out the entire install will be contaminated and possibly mouldy. You will need to rip it all out and start again including any framing that has been effected by moisture.
Be sure to waterproof all the wet areas before putting any tiles up again. Tiles and grout must never be considered as part of the waterproofing.

[Iain79]

ok ty had a tiler this morning i was diving 2 choices.

1 - put new bored retile the afected area
2 - rip the 3 sides out and redo the lot inc bored as it badly done even the dabs are too far apart.. so think this is my option..

Good news is... the flat only 4 years old he reckon i could get it done under warrenty... so will find out monday

[widler]

id just rip out and start again,patching it would just be a pain in the jacksey and look no where near as good as a full job.
it will cost more,but if it is done right it will last your life,or until the wife wants it redone when the 7 year itch starts ;(