1st Job: ((((help))))

[tobefrank]

Just pulled up floor tiles from a small bathroom, was a nightmare!! What would be the best adhesive to put down when before i re tile as there is some old tile adhesive that wont budge????? ((((help))))

[Sir Ramic]

Need more info mate.

[nybor62]

as sir ramic says more info. what is the state of the floor, what substrate is it now i.e ply

[suave]

welcome!

[Rich]

Hello mate and welcome to the forum.

Slow down a little and give us the details, what is the floor under the tiles, what tiles are going down, how much adhesive is left on the floor. The more info we have the better the advice we can give.

[doug boardley]

can only mirror above comments, I'm sure we can help if you give us more info.

[whitebeam]

Hi and welcome...as above.

[tobefrank]

yeah ply is down and has old adhesive stuck to it.........customer did'nt want units or toilet taken out so the ply has to stay!!!

[tobefrank]

customer will decide on the fitting date what tile type she wants.......ply is down from last job with old adhesive stuck to it in parts!!

[doug boardley]

how thick is the ply? got a feeling you're gonna come back with 6mm

[tobefrank]

no idear its hard to say!!

[kilty55]

hi,you need to find out the thickness its going to be 6mm 9mm or 12mm or 18mm no doubt......check door area where it ends?

is it nailed or screwed? and is it in good condition or damaged

thanks

[tobefrank]

nice 1. yeah its 9mm ply little damage, but some.......its been screwed down??

[timeless john]

Is it in 1 piece or are there joins.
Did the old tiles have any cracks from movement over them.

[kilty55]

hi frank,9mm is not sufficient imo to tile onto especially since its already been used and has soem damage as well

customer cannot dictate what stays on a job that you are doing if you are to guarantee this work you must prep it to the correct standard

i would insist the ply is removed and replaced or i would not proceed

[kilty55]

sorry to sound harsh frank but youmust cover yourself

[tobefrank]

1 join yes and no the tiles were ok....just a nightmare to remove lol

[swanman]

Welcome

[Rich]

Kilty has hit the nail on the head above. 9mm ply is not thick enough. Have a quick read through the link below, I would want new min 15mm boil and water proof ply, fixed down at min 300mm centers and then over boarded with a suitable cement board. This may seem like a lot of work but it will give the best floor for tiling.


Plywood floors...

[tobefrank]

thankyou very much rich )))

[tobefrank]

thanku so much kitty, i am new to this trade and so keen to learn.....you have been a massive help to me and i hope i can bend your ear again if that is ok?? maybe one day you might need to ask advise from me lol

[Rich]

thanku so much kitty, i am new to this trade and so keen to learn.....you have been a massive help to me and i hope i can bend your ear again if that is ok?? maybe one day you might need to ask advise from me lol

That is what the forum is for, it is nice when people listen. To many people want advice AFTER the tiles have come loose


P.S Dont forget to click Kilty's "Thanks" button

[doug boardley]

thanku so much kitty, i am new to this trade and so keen to learn.....you have been a massive help to me and i hope i can bend your ear again if that is ok?? maybe one day you might need to ask advise from me lol

lol!

[kilty55]

meow xxx

[Stewart]

Lmao.......


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[beano]

if your customer wont take out the fittings and it has to stay down i would make sure you state that you cant guarentee the work, regs state 15mm ply on floorboards and the boards have to be screwed to the joists, (i will only use 12mm at min and only if the floorboards are in really good nick) if you cant say this has been done i would make sure they are aware first.

[doug boardley]

if your customer wont take out the fittings and it has to stay down i would make sure you state that you cant guarentee the work, regs state 15mm ply on floorboards and the boards have to be screwed to the joists, (i will only use 12mm at min and only if the floorboards are in really good nick) if you cant say this has been done i would make sure they are aware first.

that'll be British Standards that aren't enforceable which is a pity, as I think our industry does need proper building regs.

[beano]

that'll be British Standards that aren't enforceable which is a pity, as I think our industry does need proper building regs.

yes doug, i dont use ply, 12mm tile backer board is better and just as cost effective really.