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    Question Boxing In - End of Bath

    Hi Forum Members,

    I have one more newbie question before finishing off my first ever tiling job. This time about boxing in. Our bath does not meet the wall at the non-business end (it's about 15cm between the wall and the bath). What we're thinking of doing is:

    • Building a wooden frame (the first horizontal piece is in place against the wall. The rest of the build I've tried to draw on to the photograph below - no laughing at my poor perspective drawing)
    • Laying Cementboard over the top, screwing in, then silicone sealing.
    • Tiling over the top with cement-based adhesive, grouting, sealing the grout, silicone sealing. (We want to angle the tile slightly down towards the bath so any moisture is encouraged off the tile).

    We like the idea of boxing in because we have in mind screwing some stainless steel wire shelves in to the wall for soap/shampoo/conditioner etc. (sitting over the top of the boxing in).

    So I have a few questions
    1. Does that seem like the right approach in general? (Have I missed anything)?
    2. How do I finish off the tiles that will be overlapping the bath slightly? Edging strip? Do I need anything in between to protect the bath?

    WithShower1.jpgBoxingIn.jpgBoxingIn2.jpg

    Any advice or guidance would be appreciated!

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    All sounds good to me. Use the same trim you have used around your window to finish off the tiles on the bath edge.


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    Default Re: Boxing In - End of Bath

    hi kylie,its personal choice but if boxing in small ends on baths like you have highlighted i like to box the shelf higher than the bath by maybe 100 to 150mm...this will give you a higher shelf which water will not sit on if your messy in the bath

    a chance also to get a good silicone seal to the edge of the boxong in as well as oppose to something that is the same height i will try and dig out a picture for you

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    Personally, I'd choose a different colour- orange is so seventies. Looks like a pretty good job with the tiling.
    Here's one I did a few months back:
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    I was fitting a bath for a landlord (know for his bodging) and we had this problem and I said I would need to make a tiled end peice, he said don't bother I have something in the garage that we can use.

    He came back with an old peice of painted skirting board that he confessed he got out of his neighbours skip and he wanted me to mitre it and silicone it on!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bathfix Bob
    I was fitting a bath for a landlord (know for his bodging) and we had this problem and I said I would need to make a tiled end peice, he said don't bother I have something in the garage that we can use.

    He came back with an old peice of painted skirting board that he confessed he got out of his neighbours skip and he wanted me to mitre it and silicone it on!
    And you refused yeah?

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    I said if I'm going to fit that I'll use the peice without the 13amp socket on it!

    Nah, we compromised and used UPVC, looked okay but wouldn't do it in a proper bathroom job.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bathfix Bob
    I said if I'm going to fit that I'll use the peice without the 13amp socket on it!

    Nah, we compromised and used UPVC, looked okay but wouldn't do it in a proper bathroom job.
    I'm just imagining someone climbing into the bath with a socketed piece of skirting at the taps trying to plug in the radio
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    Hi Kylie

    I'm with Kilty on this one, I like to raise it to the next full horizontal grout joint so as the keep the lines flowing around the room, as you have full tiled off the bath this would make it quite high but all personal preference, your method of how to build it is fine though.

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    Just as a matter of interest guys, is that substrate a cementious sheeting and if so do you waterproof that. We normally waterproof the entire bath cradle including the end shelf up the wall to 300mm above bath, and 1500mm from the shower rose if not enclosed.

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    i like to tank all the wet areas, providing the customer agrees and is willing to pay, here's an example
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    How did you fix the access panel at this end of the bath?
    Nice work by the way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by deanotile View Post
    Image0030.jpgim with kilty
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    Quote Originally Posted by kendo1 View Post
    How did you fix the access panel at this end of the bath?
    Nice work by the way.
    The customer opted for mirror screws and mapei colour match silicon 111

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    I'm with Kilty too. I like to raise mine. As said, much better seal than straight.

    (Sorry, only pics I could find off hand)

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    Default Re: Boxing In - End of Bath

    Yep, a much better finish looks great. And it will keep any water from sitting on the tile at that end.

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    Default Re: Boxing In - End of Bath

    [QUOTE=kilty55;566103]hi kylie,its personal choice but if boxing in small ends on baths like you have highlighted i like to box the shelf higher than the bath by maybe 100 to 150mm...this will give you a higher shelf which water will not sit on if your messy in the bath

    That's a really good idea kilty. I've ripped out my bathroom and have the same situation with the end of the bath. Two kids that love splashing and probably sitting on the end panel would certainly loosen a flush panel. Your option is definitely more robust. Cheers Sean
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    And it means the client can put bottles etc on it like a shelf

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    Default Re: Boxing In - End of Bath

    Wow brilliant advice. Thanks all. Especially for the pics. I've got a much better clue of what to build to. I'll definitely go with the 100-150mm higher advice.

    Gazebo, interesting what you said about the next grout line. One I'll definitely try to factor in if I ever attempt tile job number 2. (Likewise with the tanking - which I didn't do at the business end so is there any point at the boxed end?)

    Kendo - I hear ya on the colour advice!

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