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Discuss HELP! Shower tray prob. in the Tiling Forum at TilersForums; Just doing my 1st bathroom and all was going pretty well until today! Slotted the shower tray in place and realised the walls are way out. Prob is if I ...
          
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    Default HELP! Shower tray prob.

    Just doing my 1st bathroom and all was going pretty well until today! Slotted the shower tray in place and realised the walls are way out. Prob is if I was smart I would of done that first and sorted the walls out before I did anything, but did I.....no! I've tiled the walls, after tanking them and just can't bring myself (or afford) to rip them down.

    I haven't tiled to the tray as I was working off a batten. I've tried rebating tray into wall but am still left with a 20mm gap between both ends of tray and wall. The tray is a 1200x800 offset quad, I could slide into wall a little more to reduce gap but the minimum size for the screen is 1175 and 775 so anymore recess and the screen might not fit......

    Do you pro's have any ideas on my best plan of action. My 2 thoughts are using a quadrant tile or similar to bridge the gap or look at getting an L shaped seal to fit behind the tile and onto the lip of the tray.

    Really grateful for any advice.

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    Default Re: HELP! Shower tray prob.

    20mm gap both ends after rebating !

    Don't really know what to suggest if you're not prepared to rip off the tiles.
    At least you know now why it's best practice to fit the tray and THEN tile.
    Hopefully someone else will come along with a possible solution for you mate.
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    mmm.....So you've already rebated through the tanking in the place where its most needed and still got 20mm both ends?

    Where are you fitting the tray? in the Pentagon?

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    Default Re: HELP! Shower tray prob.

    pics might help please

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    Default Re: HELP! Shower tray prob.

    so your gaps are at the back ?

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    Default Re: HELP! Shower tray prob.

    Before rebating the gap was just under 50mm in places!!

    PJC, as you're loooking at the internal corner the tray is slightly rebated in the wall but the side to the right (800mm) starts coming out from the wall after about 500mm evently ended with 20mm gap. The side to the left of the internal corner (1200mm long) starts to come out from the wall at around 700mm again ending with a 20mm gap.


    Panicing about how to sort it. Gutted aswell I had plumbers 1st fix so they had the shower tray in place to fit the waste and rebate the hot/cold shower feeds in the wall. Then the plasterer skimmed the walls (which were going to be fully tiled anyway), I'm not looking to blame people as I screwed up the order but a word in a novices ear like mine at that time would of really helped me out!

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    Default Re: HELP! Shower tray prob.

    i doubt your going to sort this without removing tiles,can you take a picture so we can see to advise better

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    we need a pic

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    Default Re: HELP! Shower tray prob.

    Why isn't the plumber fitting the tray anyway? As a bathroom fitter it would be my problem not a tilers.

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    Default Re: HELP! Shower tray prob.

    I would just buy a length of 'L' shaped plastic from a D.I.Y. place and silicone it in nicely, it not Ideal but should do the job.

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    Default Re: HELP! Shower tray prob.

    something like this may help 70-2-genesis-internal-trim-aluminium.jpg a genesis internal aluminium tile trim total width is 19.5mm you will need to make sure that when you fit the shower tray then addy the wall that the tile can sit inside the recess properly though. they also do white plastic bath seal trims
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    Default Re: HELP! Shower tray prob.

    I've managed to reduce the gap in the worst areas by applying some bonding, I now think I could get away with the L-shaped plastic trim mentioned above. It'll probably mean I'll get some tile lippage but at least you'll only see it in the shower. It'll bug the hell out of me but hey ho you live and learn. I'll take some pics tomorrow and post them up.

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    Default Re: HELP! Shower tray prob.

    I'm not sure you should have used bonding on your tanking membrane and you should not tile directly onto bonding, it will need a skim coat of plaster and then need to dry etc, then apply tanking and tile.

    Would have been better to use a cement based powdered adhesive to pack the wall out a little.


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