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**jolly fix** · 02-12-2011

home today,paper work catch up.thought id watch a bit of tv,'the renovation game' one of those daytime tv makeover/building shows.turned it off due to it making me angry,again like most if not all of these shows just bad advice,today on this show whilst removing tiles from bathroom "ah these tiles are well stuck,you should paint emulsion on wall prior to tiling,this would make them easier to take off in the future

".how do these shows get away with it?90% say to prime with p.v.a etc,no talk about weight/size of tile .......etc....not only is it wrong but can be dangerous,if a chef on one of the many cook shows said to fill a chip pan to the top with oil,then you can leave pan on the heat for several hours and it would be fine etc,it wouldnt get on air!!there has to be something for this more than just writing in to complain...

**doit4u** · 02-12-2011

Just pray you don't get a customer who has seen the show and knows the best way to do it.

**suave** · 02-12-2011

its gonna take a accident to wake them up

**Dave** · 02-12-2011

They know no better than the numpty who told them in the first place...

**John Benton** · 02-12-2011

I've just turned a large bathroom job away due to the customer wanting me to tile over existing tiles. I explained to them about weight onto plasterboard, plus tiling over tiles. They wanted to put all the sanitary ware back in the same position even though the walls would be standing proud by another tile and adhesive. The shower quadrant frame would then stand proud of the tray but they just didn't get it. Wrote them a letter explaining it all in writing all the points when I went out to see them, and that I would only consider doing the job when the tiles had been removed.

Needless to say they never came back to me, so I can only surmise that they got someone who was prepared to do the work and leave them in a precarious position with two small children.

Just hope they're insured!!!

**macten** · 02-12-2011

Was speaking to a "tiler" today and I asked him the reason why he was spot fixing 60x30 porcs on a bathroom wall.
We've been doing it all wrong guys!
Apparently it allows any water to run cleanly down the wall behind the tiles

**gleno** · 02-12-2011

Macten that is classic I have been told that by a tiler over here in Aus as well

**Gazebo** · 03-12-2011

Hi Jollyfix and all, As a plumber by trade these were the kind of things i had to endure from tilers in the past, common sense told me it wasnt right so I started searching the good ole interweb and found this site.

It has been an absolute godsend to me in providing me with all the correct knowledge and procedures for installing tiles onto the correct substrates with the correct adhesives.

Where are these tilers taught to tile onto emulsion,pva,hardboard(yes hardboard).

They could all do with half a day searching this forum.

I still see tilers sticking up large format ceramics with greenstar and such like. why oh why I ask myself.

Anyway Thanks to all on this forum and oh am I waffling now....yawn too early,.....

doug boardley · 03-12-2011

Originally Posted by macten

Was speaking to a "tiler" today and I asked him the reason why he was spot fixing 60x30 porcs on a bathroom wall.
We've been doing it all wrong guys!
Apparently it allows any water to run cleanly down the wall behind the tiles

coffee burns when it comes through my nostrils!!

**jolly fix** · 03-12-2011

what i cant get over is that again this was on tv...you would think that there would be some person from building standards to preview shows like these before they get to air...

**Rich** · 03-12-2011

Does make you wonder doesnt it,

There again, according to DIY sos, "anyone can tile".

**whitebeam** · 03-12-2011

Originally Posted by macten

Was speaking to a "tiler" today and I asked him the reason why he was spot fixing 60x30 porcs on a bathroom wall.
We've been doing it all wrong guys!
Apparently it allows any water to run cleanly down the wall behind the tiles

Then down beside the bath to follow thru to the ceiling below.........COOL

**richie b** · 06-12-2011

i went to look at a job with another tiler when i was working in nz, the floor had a slight bounce in the middle of the room so i started pricing up for taking floor up strengthing etc and he laughed and said we just stick them down with sillicone were the floor bounces, never heard that befor and never did it that was either