moving a toilet when tiling

[craig1194]

Have just completed a four day tiling course to do my own toilet and bathroom after getting a quote for £1000 for just an average size bathroom,since finding this website and learning about other courses i have realised that the very poor 4 day course i went on will not be enough to do a decent job,can anyone help me!! i have taken the old tiles off the wall in just the toilet to start with which just come off in sheets but i cant get my head round the toilet bit,i will need to take the toilet out to strip the tiles,plaster the wall and then re- tile behind the toilet and floor before a new toilet can be put in,i didnt expect to go through this on the course but even the basics would of been good.whats the best way to do this without the wife going on to much because she hasnt got a toilet! Would appreciate any help with this very much,cheers.

Where abouts are you? If your local, I will wip the toilet out for you. If not, then I will explain step by step how to do it

Where was your course out of interest?

[tjsmiler]

Hi Craig

Sorry to here your problem mate, them 4 day courses are an absolute waste of money (unless you just want to do your sink splash back) for bigger jobs and proper tiling they are crap!

On the upside mate you have a good offer from 'concept' and in the meantime i have a spare bucket your wife could use while your toilet is out of action

He He just kidding

Good luck Pal

[L & R CERAMICS]

just a suggestion ,go to your local plumbers and buy a flexible waste connector for the toilet and also a flexible pipe connector in what ever size the copper pipe is change these fittings with the old ones but make sure you put a shut off valve on the water inlet to the cistern then you can take the toilet out as much as you want also do the same with the sink

[CON5933]

Hi Craig,
L&R's right, just whip it out and use the gear he mentioned, you can then install & remove the bog whenever you need too without any hassle. (little tip: without trying to teach anyone to suck eggs.... when removin the bog, use an old paint roller tray to catch spillage from pan....use an old dry sponge to throw in the cistern to collect the residue 'below the flush level'...... and have a plastic bag and an elastic band ready to cover the 'smelly hole' drain...)

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[Dan]

Nice tips there

[craig1194]

Thanks for info and thanks to concept for your offer,im in manchester/timperley if thats local,can the toilet be put back the same day after the wall and floor have been tiled? if not how long would you have to wait,just thinking about drilling through tiles also thanks to con for the links to screwfix,would you fellas have a toilet out and back in on the same day in a customers house,again thanks for all info,cheers craig.

Lol - Manchester is a wee bit for for me. I'm in Bham.

1. Isolate the water supply either by the service valve running from the feed into the toilet, or turning off your stop cock under your sink.
2. Flush the toilet so that the cistern empties. (If you find it fills back up again, then you need to also isolate the cold water cistern in your roof, by tying up the ball valve and then drain the roof cistern too). Then get a sponge in the toilet cistern to mop up the remaining water.
3. Then, its a simple case of unscrewing the feed connector to the toilet and unscrewing the porcelain from the floor/wall. Pull the toilet complete from the soil pipe - and your done.

You will need some rags and tubs to collect excess water and also a covering for your soil pipe.

To install it, simply reverse the above action. When you come to drilling the holes for the toilet, make sure you mark the holes on the wall/floor and then move the toilet away. DO NOT DRILL THROUGH THE HOLES ON THE TOILET - you will crack the porcelain. And make sure you use a good diamond tipped drill bit with plenty of water spray to cool it off.

If you haven't got a service valve on your toilet, now might be a good time to put one on. Get a compression / thread valve and put it on the feed pipe. Then, making sure the valve is close, you can turn the water back on whilst the toilet is out. Then, get a flexi hose and connect it to the cistern when your ready. Job done.

You can sit the toilet on the floor within 3-5 hours, but give it 24 hrs before you start drilling.

[craig1194]

Cheers for info will give it a go at weekend.

[CON5933]

Craig,
One last thing, if you are leaving the cistern coupled to the toilet, (common sense anyway and it will become apparent as soon as you move the bog......) make sure you lean it up against a wall once free....it's a bit like a woman on valentines day.... UN-BALANCED.

[darrenfarrelly]

Dont worry mate its not such a big deal.
If you a re novice then do this disconnect the water and remove the lav. Put a pushfit stopend onto the coldwater supply then you are free to do youre work. Now to keep No1 happy when you finish up at intervals untill you are ready to refit permanetly, just refit your existing toilet to the waste and use a bucket of water to flush. Not the most sophistacated solution but it will enable you to work properly untill youve completed the job.
regards darren@Fit4u