how to build a bath panel

[pjc]

does anyone else build a bath panel as such ?

[ian158]

if you need access how do you get to it ?

[pjc]

the tile on the left is the access panel and the left hand joint is silicone you can see on the top pic the cut in the plaster board

[ian158]

ive only done one since i started, and worry about access so I made a frame from 68mm cls. plasterboard then tile. its not flush like yours but with a 35-40 mm lip but gives it body, rather than flush. its heavy but comes of in one lump, silicon all round with small wedges behind silicone, told customer how, if it needed to come off for access to cut silicone, cut small wedges and lift out, but mind your toes!. but would like to hear how anyone else does it
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[pjc]

that one sits back 5mm from the bath edge so wont get water on it if you need to access it just cut the joint with a blade only one cut tile

[ian158]

ah I see, nice one, will remember that, also like the way you matched up grout line with floor, I couldnt do it on mine as didnt have enough tiles, the customer worked for porcelnosa, and it was end of line job lot, used every little bit !

[kilty55]

do you use the magnet system pj?
ive used it a few times

[ian158]

magnet, would have to be a strong one wouldnt it !

[pjc]

magnet, would have to be a strong one wouldnt it !

what magnet it dosent need one silicone

[pjc]

do you use the magnet system pj?
ive used it a few times

Jamie once you siliconed it it will hold about 2 ton lol

[kilty55]

i use the magnet system and the silicone also for the edges

the magnet system ian is 4 magnets for the back...either schluter or genesis both do one,you would probably need a few packs for a tile that size

[pjc]

Jamie why ? i have never needed a magnet for a bath panel

[kilty55]

i prefer using them,keeps the tile in situ while the silicone is drying also

sometimes my access panel willbe a single tile maybe a 600 by 300 tile which is 1 tile of the floor so the magnets woudl be of good use then to hold tile in place tioll silicone cures

[pjc]

give me the money for the cost of the magnets i need it just put a wedge in till it cures

[kilty55]

what i mean is pj that you have created a removable peice of board ther as well that come off

i dont do that i leave the board fixed and cut a hole which is slightly smaller than the tile size and use the magnet system on the edges of the hole to fix the single tile

i can see the benefits of your bigger removable peice but say it was smaller tiles brick effect it wouldnt work do you know what im trying to say lol

[kilty55]

magnets are only 3 or 4 pounds lol

[Gazebo]

I do my panels pretty much the same way as you pjc. and yes i use a wedge until silicone has cured. pain in the backside when you get a cradle leg set like the one in the photo.

i have also done a panel with bevelled edge brick bond tiles and that was a tad harder to do but still the same principle.

[pjc]

Yes I have to a few times but a long time ago first bath panel its for the outlaws for about 15 years

[pjc]

what i mean is pj that you have created a removable peice of board ther as well that come off

i dont do that i leave the board fixed and cut a hole which is slightly smaller than the tile size and use the magnet system on the edges of the hole to fix the single tile

i can see the benefits of your bigger removable peice but say it was smaller tiles brick effect it wouldnt work do you know what im trying to say lol

yes its only as big as you want it you dont have to use the plaster board and yes i done it with brick tiles and even bricks slips

[Tabby Cranks]

I like the schluter magnets. I'd use a tile backerboard for the rest of the panel.

[pjc]

I like the schluter magnets. I'd use a tile backerboard for the rest of the panel.

well i am poor cant afford backerboard where it not needed and magnets lol

[pjc]

there was a stabila level in the pic but was only useing that to mix the adhesive

[ian158]

Lol

[Tabby Cranks]

well i am poor cant afford backerboard where it not needed and magnets lol

But you don't pay for it, the customer does. The kind of movement a bath gets, and the risk of it getting wet would always be backerboard for me. It would add less than a tenner to the job.

[pjc]

how would the bath panel get wet ? if it did hate to see the rest of the house

[Tabby Cranks]

how would the bath panel get wet ? if it did hate to see the rest of the house

So there's no risk of a bath panel getting wet?

[pjc]

So there's no risk of a bath panel getting wet?

well i cant see how unless you you filled the bathroom up with water or stood there with a hose but most of it would run down the stairs i am not having a go at you just saying why use a product if it costs more when you dont need it its not a problem using it its better than plaster board but i always advise builders not to use backerboard on boxing only if its getting wet like a shower if its not use plasterboard imo

[widler]

well i cant see how unless you you filled the bathroom up with water or stood there with a hose but most of it would run down the stairs i am not having a go at you just saying why use a product if it costs more when you dont need it its not a problem using it its better than plaster board but i always advise builders not to use backerboard on boxing only if its getting wet like a shower if its not use plasterboard imo

completely right mate,if it gets wet,its down either to the tiling failing or plumbing through mostly bad workmanship.

ive been plastering and tiling for over 25 years,never had one fail on me,ever(apart from one where the walls were ply,not my doing)and i have only just started using tanking as well

[andy tiler]

i always use 30mm wedi type backerboard for bath panels.imo its the right board for the job!no framework needed.and always leave inspection traps.

[Phil Hobson]

This one is completely removable the whole thing, on Hardie backer. Access needed to all areas under bath, Jacuzzi.