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Discuss fixing large heavy tiles on wall in the Tiling Forum at TilersForums; i have a feature wall to do in an en-suite using these tiles http://www.inalco.es/imagenes/series/47/80_4.pdf They are 800 sq, 15mm deep and weigh 40kg psm. The wall was skim plastered on ...
          
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    i have a feature wall to do in an en-suite using these tiles
    http://www.inalco.es/imagenes/series/47/80_4.pdf

    They are 800 sq, 15mm deep and weigh 40kg psm. The wall was skim plastered on breeze block, I have battened it with 40mm timber at 300 intervals using rawlplugs and will board with 12.5 mm marmox, which will be as flat as possible. Manufacturer only specifies cementitious adhesive, ntg more specific, I was planning to use mapei Adesilex P9 which is non rapidset to give me time for adjustments. Any advice on adhesive and tile cutter I should be hiring?

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    Default Re: fixing large heavy tiles on wall

    I would imagine a wet cutter would be better than a manual because of the surface shape, I would use a fast set because of the weight of the tile as well..
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    Default Re: fixing large heavy tiles on wall

    Quote Originally Posted by whitebeam View Post
    I would imagine a wet cutter would be better than a manual because of the surface shape, I would use a fast set because of the weight of the tile as well..
    sorry shd have said yes i mean which table saw really. Interesting re rapidset, why would you want it setting quicker if it's going nowhere?

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    Default Re: fixing large heavy tiles on wall

    Rapidset is usually very slidey on walls, a good grippy single part flexi such as Biscem OPF would give you less heartache.

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    Default Re: fixing large heavy tiles on wall

    depending on where you are in the country, there is a rail saw for sail in the for sale section near Nottingham, £20, £240 volt, so no good for site really.

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    Default Re: fixing large heavy tiles on wall

    Those bad boys look like loads of fun

    I'd probably consider something like Ardex X77 - not the cheapest but it'll keep 'em where you put 'em.

    As for a cutter, I'd use my D24000, but if your hiring then I would ask the hire centre what they can supply and make a judgement as to whether the cutter will cope.

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    Default Re: fixing large heavy tiles on wall

    If your putting onto battens and building the wall up theres alot of weight on it..
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    Quote Originally Posted by whitebeam View Post
    If your putting onto battens and building the wall up theres alot of weight on it..
    well the idea is the battens ( more like studwork actually) are fixed hard to the wall then marmox screwed into them. Load bearing up to 62 kg psm so will be ok. I was looking for non slump adhesive, Mapei say P9 is 'High strength, polymer modified adhesive for installing ceramic and porcelain tiles and mosaics, no vertical slip. For interior and exterior applications on conventional wall and floor substrates.' which seems to cover it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daz View Post
    Those bad boys look like loads of fun

    I'd probably consider something like Ardex X77 - not the cheapest but it'll keep 'em where you put 'em.

    As for a cutter, I'd use my D24000, but if your hiring then I would ask the hire centre what they can supply and make a judgement as to whether the cutter will cope.

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    Cheers, don't really use ardex, would it be better for this than the Adesilex P9? Noted re table saw

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    Default Re: fixing large heavy tiles on wall

    I use a lot of P9, but for something that size I would want to use X77 or Mapei Keraflex.

    I can't wait to see the pics..

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    Too much lippage for me

    30 years ago Pilkingtons used to make a 6inch tile like that.

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    Default Re: fixing large heavy tiles on wall

    I would use mapei keraquick and prime the wall first with mapei primer G.

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    Default Re: fixing large heavy tiles on wall

    Mapei tech help recommend using Granirapid.. (if she isn't too busy knitting and baking scones that is )
    They say it needs quick setting (like Whitebeam)
    Tx help guys, although struggling to find a decent rail saw to hire locally, might have to soldier on with my Topps QEP 750w with a new blade, see how it goes.

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    Default Re: fixing large heavy tiles on wall

    pci nanolite rapid set would be my choice,looks nice

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    Will an 800x800 tile fit in that saw?
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    Default Re: fixing large heavy tiles on wall

    grani rapid is nice to work with also

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bri View Post
    Will an 800x800 tile fit in that saw?
    It's a table saw, so only restriction is depth of cut (25mm). With 2 of us guiding it through slowly it should be ok. I have 8 full length cuts to do.

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    Default Re: fixing large heavy tiles on wall

    Classic tiling, why would you prime the marmox boards?
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    Default Re: fixing large heavy tiles on wall

    I personally always find it better to prime walls when using powdered cement based adhesives

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    Quote Originally Posted by kilty55 View Post
    pci nanolite rapid set would be my choice,looks nice
    i would use nanolite

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    Quote Originally Posted by pjc View Post
    i would use nanolite
    Any idea best source of Nanolight, i'm in Brentwood, Essex. Looks great but never used it.

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    Default Re: fixing large heavy tiles on wall

    Guys, struggling to get this. Apart from Walltileadhesive.co.uk anyone know who would supply 3 bags of rapidset to essex. I'm looking at £45 delivery as it stands

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    will try to ring the rep if i remember tomorrow lol
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    Guys, struggling to get this. Apart from Walltileadhesive.co.uk anyone know who would supply 3 bags of rapidset to essex. I'm looking at £45 delivery as it stands

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    i think mapie do something like it Dave?

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    will try to ring the rep if i remember tomorrow lol
    they gave me 2 suppliers, both the other side of london and neither were 2 keen on supplying only 3 bags, not in stock, delivery charges prohibitive etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pjc View Post
    i think mapie do something like it Dave?
    Mapei recommended granirapid but the pci looks good and i'd rather use it if i can..
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    Quote Originally Posted by davemul View Post
    Classic tiling, why would you prime the marmox boards?
    Marmox boards do NOT need sealing

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    FYI found Wall & Floor Tiles | Tile Adhesive & Grout | Tools | Trade Services reasonable delivery and trade acc discount. should get it 1-2 days at £6 cheaper per bag and £20 cheaper for delivery than my 'local' stockists....

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    Quote Originally Posted by aflemi View Post
    FYI found Wall & Floor Tiles | Tile Adhesive & Grout | Tools | Trade Services reasonable delivery and trade acc discount. should get it 1-2 days at £6 cheaper per bag and £20 cheaper for delivery than my 'local' stockists....
    thats not a bad price

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