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Discuss Tiling an outside step with victorian tiles. in the Tiling Forum at TilersForums; Hi, Got to tile my brothers outside front step next week in victorian tiles,weather permitting. I have been told to work from the centre and go outwards,also the face of ...
          
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    Default Tiling an outside step with victorian tiles.

    Hi,
    Got to tile my brothers outside front step next week in victorian tiles,weather permitting.
    I have been told to work from the centre and go outwards,also the face of the step is crumbling so not sure how to level this out,any further advice on this kind of tiling and the levelling out process would be much appreciated.
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    Default Re: Tiling an outside step with victorian tiles.

    You need a FLAT surface for a geometric floor. That step is in really poor condition, are you tiling the face as well? you may be as well to either get it screeded properly or maybe overlay with a backerboard like Hardie Wedi or Marmox, though this will add some height and I am not sure you have enough room at your door threshold....it may look a bit odd with the extra height?
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    Default Re: Tiling an outside step with victorian tiles.

    I would be hacking off the old tiles and the brick work just incase they start to break away, there is probably an old concrete slab under the tiles..

    Render on the edge/front of the step and a self leveling on the surface in front of the door.
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    Default Re: Tiling an outside step with victorian tiles.

    IMO.. it isn't suitable to tile too as it is.. a good hard frost will blow them off in no time.. i think it needs to be ripped out and new one cast in place.

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    Default Re: Tiling an outside step with victorian tiles.

    Yeah, its all in the prep work here! Rip it all up and start again!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave View Post
    IMO.. it isn't suitable to tile too as it is.. a good hard frost will blow them off in no time.. i think it needs to be ripped out and new one cast in place.
    Agreed and when you do, set it back so that the finished riser finishes inside the brickwork to allow for thickness of facing tile.
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    Oh and sort the weed problem out once and for all.
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    Default Re: Tiling an outside step with victorian tiles.

    I think you will prob spend more time trying to make that a suitable surface to tile, then it would take to rip out and redo.
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    Lol, weeds sorted..

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    Default Re: Tiling an outside step with victorian tiles.

    ok,cheers guys for that,steps all sorted in preperation..screwed and bedded backerboard down with flexi addy on the top and face of step last week.
    Now rock solid and flat.

    My next question is, do I butt them up or leave a very small grout line say 1mm all around each tile?
    Also shall I use a mosaic trowel or a 6mm trowel?
    Hope you can advise,
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    Default Re: Tiling an outside step with victorian tiles.

    Did'nt think backerboard was for external fixing.
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    Default Re: Tiling an outside step with victorian tiles.

    2mm grout joint, i use a 4.5mm rubi trowel.

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    Default Re: Tiling an outside step with victorian tiles.

    Quote Originally Posted by bluevin123 View Post
    ok,cheers guys for that,steps all sorted in preperation..screwed and bedded backerboard down with flexi addy on the top and face of step last week.
    Now rock solid and flat.

    My next question is, do I butt them up or leave a very small grout line say 1mm all around each tile?
    Also shall I use a mosaic trowel or a 6mm trowel?
    Hope you can advise,
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    So you left the steps as they were..? and which backerboard.?

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    Default Re: Tiling an outside step with victorian tiles.

    Yeah, spoke with me Brother and his Wife,showed them the forums answers, they didnt really want step knocked out so they agreed on using the hardiebacker board as was recommended by 3 tile shops,all who said it was suitable for outdoor use.
    So it sure looks ok,just hope it remains that way.
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    Default Re: Tiling an outside step with victorian tiles.

    hardie dont garantee their backer board for outside use, hardie backer retains a lot of moisture when used outside which will mean a failure due to frost damage

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    Default Re: Tiling an outside step with victorian tiles.

    As above, Hardi is not suitable for exterior use vinnie..

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