Depth of reveal/window frame

[FreeD]

Always struggle with these...getting them the same width each side. If width of the window frame on either side is not identical how do you get both sides identical thickness once tiled?

[Mike]

evening out the frame would have to be done before tiling. if they're that bad you could plasterboard one side to make it even it out. a lot of windows aren't even due to one side being thinner as the opening window hangs on it

[FreeD]

Whats the quickest way of doing this with rapid set...do you attach a batten to the wall to rule off?

[Daz]

If the walls are plastered, you will usually find "high spots" at one or two of the facing wall corners. I've never understood why, but it seems that plasterers taper in or out as they get to the reveals and don't seem to be able to use a feather edge across a window to ensure consistency.

As Mike says, you will need to make flat and even up prior to tiling if you want them even.

[Mike]

you could do it with a batten nailed to the face of the wall or you can just dot and dab plasterboard (with dry lining adhesive) both ways are effective to straighten/build out the reveal

[FreeD]

Ok thanks, thought you might use measurements of the tiles to straighten up as you go, but makes sense to sort the reveals first

[Mike]

you can do that if there's only a slight difference but if its a lot it's best to straighten/even it before tiling

[FreeD]

is this something you would give the customer the option for or just do it as part of the job?

[whitebeam]

I use one of these for the plastering to reveals to gauge it and get an equal depth which could be usefull for the tiling

[Colour Republic]

is this something you would give the customer the option for or just do it as part of the job?

Just do it really unless it is going to take a bit of time faffing around, then explain what you plan to do, why and then how much.

[Mike]

is this something you would give the customer the option for or just do it as part of the job?

i would tell the customer if it is far out and needs a lot of work as i would need to charge for it but if it is slight i would just straighten it with the tiles as i go

[FreeD]

Nice one Whitebeam i'll be getting one of those!

[Daz]

That looks well groovy Mark, I wish all my local plasterers would start using tools like that . Some of the "tileable" walls I've been given recently have left little to be desired.

[whitebeam]

If it's that far out a bit of plasterboard and dry wall adhesive will sort it out.

[Mike]

i've just finished a bathroom today which was new pink plaster, i thought the walls would be perfect as its a new extension but there was a bell all the way around the top and the window wall was a mile out of being flat. the plasterer blamed the young brickie that built it. bloody plasterers

[whitebeam]

Every trade blaming the previous.

[Mike]

Every trade blaming the previous.

yeah and muggins here had to sort it out

[whitebeam]

I've done plastering for many years and the only time the site agents spoke for the tilers was on a refurb job in offices for the underground in London, shower areas and that had to be spot on for the tilers and was sand/cement backing, that was only once where the tilers where considered.

[FreeD]

Lol I'm a plasterer by trade, blaming the brickie is a poor excuse, its a plasterers job kitchen or bathroom, if its going to be tiled its got to be flat, reveals etc level/square. its all about getting your lines right in plastering, thats why i'm so fussed about it with tiling it sets off the job if everything is equal dimensions, flat and square.

[TF Ed]

the reason so much plastering is bad now is...

the money is so poor on site now that they just throw it on, freerule and then skim...
dont get me wrong, its not right but the site agents dont care either.

if a plaster set his angle beads right, he could rule off these and then use a square on the reveals. there are so many poor plasterers out there now its unreal. semi trained, skimmers or been on a 5 day course and told then can plaster?

if you want perfect walls, then the best bet is to advertise yourself to do the prep work. many tilers can float walls out using screeds, so if your unhappy with whats out there, the best thing to do is push your tiling skills upto the next level. theres loads of advice on here on how to do screeds and form square, parellel reveal.....

but hear me right, the standard in plastering has dropped and thats down to many factors including greedy builders strangeling the life out of every trade.. its all so down to many so called plasterers not being able to float out correctly.
sign of the times i'm afraid ..

ed