Tile trim

[FreeD]

I remember reading another post where the discussion was whether you push the trim into the wall face or reveal...When I did my course at Nett I think we pushed the trim into the wall face...

Anyway I've got a job on at the moment and i've looked at the other bathrooms in the house and it looks like the tiler has done what many others seem to do on here which is push the trim into the reveal...

How is this done?...do u tile the face first...leaving the required depth for the reveals...then tile the reveals plus insert trim?

And do you have the edge of the trim that lips over the tile showing on the wall face or on the reveal?

[andy allen]

tile wall face, cut trim and insert on inside of the reveal, tile reveal making sure trim is flush where both tiles meet.

[Mike]

as with andy , put the trim on the reveal. it's easier that way and your trim will have more surface to bond to on the reveal

[FreeD]

How do u keep the trim in place?

[Knackered Knees]

As Above Tile face first then cut trim and reveal,glue so both face and reveal sit flush with the trim.

[Knackered Knees]

To keep trim in place I use grey duct tape or masking tape over the trim and tile. It provides a nice clamping pressure til glue sets.

[Mike]

i just use adhesive , be careful you dont use too much or it will come out between the tile and trim. i sometimes tack the trim till the adhesive goes off. make sure your walls are straight/flat or you'll struggle to get a good finish

[FreeD]

doing it this way surely you have to get the cuts on the face perfectly level to avoid what i've see a fair few times the tiler making up gaps between tile and trim with grout on the face?

[Knackered Knees]

Yes you do have to get them level, but getting things level is what tiling is all about. LOL!

[FreeD]

yea true, not looking forward to tmw, job i'm on at the moment 1mm grout lines! no tolerance for any mistakes.

[Knackered Knees]

Tiling is all about the finish, just take your time,measure twice cut once. then once you have one correct cut the rest the same. If the reveal is out of level then you may have to use more adhesive on one side of the reveal to pack up your trim. If the reveal is waaay out of level or plumb for that matter, you may need to prep this before tiling, to true everything up.

[Phil Hobson]

As all above for me, especially the measure twice cut once bit

[FreeD]

Ok I think I get where your coming from now...so you cut the tiles on the reveal pretty much flush with the reveal, then stick the trim on which allows for the reveal tile...but doing it this way the reveal has to be flat?

[diamondtiling]

Have a look at the picture, is that what you mean? The tile on the reveal (boxing in) is flush with the edge, the trim will then be fitted and the tiles fixed.

The picture is upside down for some reason but you can still see how the trim was fitted by looking at the end result.


Picture 70 of 79 from Bathroom refurb.

[Bri]

As has already been mentioned, tile the face wall first then put the trim into the reveal and tile the reveal. One of the reasons for doing it this way is that it is not always possible to get a trim that is a perfect depth for your tile, so you may have to pack the tiles out that sit in the trim, it is much easier to do this with a few tiles in the reveal than have to build out the whole face wall.

[FreeD]

See what your saying Bri but i spoke to the guy in topps today and he said unless your reveal is perfectly square and the window ledge level, the tiles will follow the reveal levels, his prefered method was to use the face tiles to square off the reveal and allow for any variations in levels, put the trim into behind the face tiles then tile the reveals, the option to pack out the reveal tiles with adhesive if the levels are out, which cannot be done with the other method as you are limited by the depth of the trim. Does that make sense?

[FreeD]

Diamond I take it you would now stick the trim on the plasterboard not slip it in behind the tiles...if so how do you allow for depth of adhesive? The trims i use tend to be 0.5 - 1mm thicker than the tile

[Mike]

you 'frame' the window yourself with the tiles. i.e for the tiles under the sill, measure the largest side of the sill and cut all your tiles to this size. same with the top and sides. the trim then goes on the reveal and the reveal tiles can be packed out with (bagged) adhesive to the correct depth. what does the guy in topps know about tiling? he only sells them i bet!

[ally990]

Remember to cut the tiles on the reveal to the widest width of it is not plumb!

[Bri]

As Mike and Ally said, the corrections in the window reveal need to be rectified when you do the face of the wall, if necessary, when this is done use a fast setting adhesive to fill in any dips before you put the trim and reveal tiles in. The advice to push the trim down the back of the face tiles is really poor advice, it's a really difficult, back to front way of approaching this task.

[FreeD]

So if you have to make up quite a bit of depth....when you fit the tile trim to the reveal there will be a gap between the tile and the reveal so do you just support the trim with a bit of adhesive?

[ally990]

You need to make the job look plumb and level when tiling. So when tiling a window or pipebox etc. you need to cat all your tiles to the same size and bag out with adhesive if necessary.....as time goes on you will learn, especiallly from your mistakes

[Mike]

i skim the reveal and let the adhesive go off then fit the trim. make sure it's not proud of the tiles tho. if the reveal is a long way out, maybe it should have been straightened prior to tiling.

[Bri]

So if you have to make up quite a bit of depth....when you fit the tile trim to the reveal there will be a gap between the tile and the reveal so do you just support the trim with a bit of adhesive?

Fill the gap with a rapid set then you will have a square reveal to put your trim and tile into, so essentially you are squaring up the reveal before the trim and tiles are fitted.

[Bri]

Snap Mike!

[FreeD]

I think the penny has just dropped with what you were saying Bri about filling out with rapid set...that would sort your levels and allow you to get a fixing for the trim. If the trim is virtually the same size as the tile...then you would leve a few mm for adhesive...correct?

[Bri]

Say you had a 10mm thick tile, usually a 12mm trim would be used which will allow for the adhesive bed under the tile and let the tile sit flush with the trim.

[Mike]

about 2 mm deeper than the tile is ample for the trim

[Mike]

Say you had a 10mm thick tile, usually a 12mm trim would be used which will allow for the adhesive bed under the tile and let the tile sit flush with the trim.

snap again bri

[Bri]

snap again bri

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