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    my partner met a client earlier wants a quote for 120 m2 600 x600 porc

    fixing method they want, lay the tiles onto a semii dry sand and cement ,he said if we tamp the tiles into the screeed it will be fine , we will add pva to the mix as well


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    have they never heard of tile adhesive.
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    What can you say
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    were do they get there information from bri
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    Isn't that how they lay out in Spain? Not even sure they do it out there any more.
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    paving slabs maybe , oh forgot to mention its onto a timber floor , pub refurb
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    I've heard of similar fixing methods for tiling onto fresh screeds. I'm sure Gary does something similar and has recently posted about it. I'm sure he has some pics of it in his gallery.
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    i think years ago, before they had new adhesives the spec was to lay at least 4" of screed reinforced with chicken wire onto floorboards to remove any bounce. also, i remember someone laying quarry tiles directly onto semi wet screed as he was setting the screed, then grouting with semi dry sand and cement the next morning. this is going back some time though, and i didn't think anyone still did it that way now. as far as i know though, they weren't bad methods, just outdated now.
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    if you slurry the backs with sbr bond and neat cement they fix really nicely to semi dry sand and cement Rob ,I will send you some pictures of the fixing method if you need any advice on itif the plywwod s 18mm and sturdy you can put building paper down and do an inch thick screed on eml mesh and it will be fine and its common practice in the U.S
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    Quote Originally Posted by garythetiler View Post
    if you slurry the backs with sbr bond and neat cement they fix really nicely to semi dry sand and cement Rob ,I will send you some pictures of the fixing method if you need any advice on itif the plywwod s 18mm and sturdy you can put building paper down and do an inch thick screed on eml mesh and it will be fine and its common practice in the U.S
    I have fixed tens of thousands of m2 using this method, pure cement slurry with SBR, or two part epoxy on to semi dry screed , laid the same day .Never had a failure. imo the most accurate flooring system ever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phil Hobson View Post
    I have fixed tens of thousands of m2 using this method, pure cement slurry with SBR, or two part epoxy on to semi dry screed , laid the same day .Never had a failure. imo the most accurate flooring system ever.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phil Hobson View Post
    I have fixed tens of thousands of m2 using this method, pure cement slurry with SBR, or two part epoxy on to semi dry screed , laid the same day .Never had a failure. imo the most accurate flooring system ever.


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    This is the old school way of tile fixing ad stone fixing, before tile adhesive was produced.

    Mind the pin holes haha

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    But lose the PVA

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    i think it should be compulsary for all tilers to learn how to lay tiles on sand and cement, both semi dry and wet bed.
    there will be times when its cost effective or its recommended.
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    I was going to ask what the problem was and was beat to it

    a method used across the world without problem, ive fixed vitrified tiles that way back in the day
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    sounds like an old method of laying (not saying it don't work) i'm one of the youngsters

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    sounds like an old method of laying (not saying it don't work) i'm one of the youngsters

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    the client does not intend using a slurry mix , he wants to fix the tiles direct on to sand and cement screed, semi dry
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    Quote Originally Posted by AstonTiling View Post
    i think it should be compulsary for all tilers to learn how to lay tiles on sand and cement, both semi dry and wet bed.
    there will be times when its cost effective or its recommended.
    I've never done it but would like to know how to, so the next time someone is laying using this method please pm me so I can come and watch/learn.
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    Hi all I've layed on to a semi dry concrete With quarry tiles. I just wet the backs with water then rubbed them into the concrete. They r still down now 20yrs ago.

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    never heard of laying tiles this way either, thought it would of been a no no. Would love a how to guide from one of the older members.....

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