Mosiac and pencil trim

[shogun rua]

Hi Guys,

When doing a Mosaic border with a pencil trim above and below,
what do you guys do first?
Ive attached a pic of what i mean.

1. put the bottom trim on let it dry, then the mosaic let it dry, then the top one?

2. Or just put it all on in one go?

i think i saw in another thread you can make them up before you put them on the wall or am i tripping?

Cheers

Paul

[Bri]

Do it all in one go. Trim, mosaic, trim, then leave to go off. Don't be tempted to try and tile above straight away, if there is any slippage the mosaic will compress and then you will be in bother! Oh and make sure the tiling is pan flat underneath the trim because those metal trims don't bend very easily.

[Alan.P]

All at once, including the tiles above, spacer the mosaic at strategic points, long winded (sometimes) but saves the waiting game.

[Dave]

This for me depends on how thick the mosaics are..

Mostly i tend to space the gap for mosaics with off cuts of tile cut to size and then when tiles are set enough i dog tooth the recess out and then bed mosaics in nice and flush and no risk of crushing/curling....

[Alan.P]

This for me depends on how thick the mosaics are..

Mostly i tend to space the gap for mosaics with off cuts of tile cut to size and then when tiles are set enough i dog tooth the recess out and then bed mosaics in nice and flush and no risk of crushing/curling....

I've done it that way a couple of times, never again after the last time, they changed the border to one 5mm higher in the next plot without telling us, as we didn't have any on site we just went ahead as normal, half a wall to strip and redo ............... not a happy bunny lol

[Dave]

See now that is why i hate sites..

[Alan.P]

See now that is why i hate sites..

I hate them more this week lol

[shogun rua]

Thanks Brian

[shogun rua]

All at once, including the tiles above, spacer the mosaic at strategic points, long winded (sometimes) but saves the waiting game.

Hi Alan,

What do you mean (spacer the mosaic at strategic points)?

Cheers

Paul

[Alan.P]

To save the mosaic from crushing together I / we insert spacers in between the tile / trim and mosaic at certain points to maintain grout gaps.

[shogun rua]

To save the mosaic from crushing together I / we insert spacers in between the tile / trim and mosaic at certain points to maintain grout gaps.

lol i get a bit paranoid i usually have about 200 spaces on mosiacs
Do you put the next row off tiles on so you know it will be flush?

thanks for advise guys

paul

[Scott]

Do the borders with rapid and work my way round the room, have a dinner break and then start tiling above

If you need to bend the pencil trims you cut nip out litle cuts in the back to aid the curve, just be careful you dont 'fatigue' the metal as it will show

[shogun rua]

Cheers Scott

[Alan.P]

lol i get a bit paranoid i usually have about 200 spaces on mosiacs
Do you put the next row off tiles on so you know it will be flush?

thanks for advise guys

paul

Depending on the mosaic you can get away with a few, but it can get take a lot sometimes, still quicker, for me at least.

[tfs]

I fit all at once unless the tiles are very heavy. With most tiles I can get away with hammering nails under the first row of tiles above the border to help take the weight (nails need to be thinner than spacers)

[tfs]

Here is an example here of one I did today, in this case due to tiling around door I decided to tile over doorway and down at other side so I used the nails due to tiles sliding slightly as I laid them. I worked my way to each tile when setting the border and if required raised each tile as I went along and supported with nails.

ps. these mosaics are a pain in the backside for cutting around sockets

[aph257]

in the past i've put batten where top of border is, tile up to ceiling, leave to set, then tile down to floor, that way no weight on border.

[bigp747]

Do the stilets and mosaics all together and use strips of the cardboard box that the tiles came in as your spacers, leave to set then tile above. You could also make it all up on a strip of 6mm ply and stick the whole lot on this would save time having to wait for the things to set as in my first solution. However this method is best used if your mosaic is much thinner than your main tile. hope this helps.

[shogun rua]

Here is an example here of one I did today, in this case due to tiling around door I decided to tile over doorway and down at other side so I used the nails due to tiles sliding slightly as I laid them. I worked my way to each tile when setting the border and if required raised each tile as I went along and supported with nails.

ps. these mosaics are a pain in the backside for cutting around sockets

thanks mate

[shogun rua]

in the past i've put batten where top of border is, tile up to ceiling, leave to set, then tile down to floor, that way no weight on border.

cheers

[shogun rua]

Do the stilets and mosaics all together and use strips of the cardboard box that the tiles came in as your spacers, leave to set then tile above. You could also make it all up on a strip of 6mm ply and stick the whole lot on this would save time having to wait for the things to set as in my first solution. However this method is best used if your mosaic is much thinner than your main tile. hope this helps.

thanks