40 grand kitchen!

[Mike]

I was shocked when I looked under the sink in a house I've been working in to see the mess of the plumbing. the push fit elbows are actually touching the socket! surely that won't pass building regs? also the fitters never bothered putting a shelf in the unit (probably due to the mess of the pipework) not what you'd expect to see in a 40 grand kitchen!

[Mouldy]

Show's a complete lack of care and attention if nothing else. Like you say, not what you'd expect after spending 40k!

[maniek]

2nd photo - it looks like there is no trap/siphon under the sink...

[faithhealer]

B&Q waste system too

[andy allen]

ruff or what....no care taken at all..

[Rob Z]

John, is that a code-legal installation (the wastes plumbed under the sink)?

[faithhealer]

don't know if its legal Rob but definitely a cowboy job

[Rob Z]

John, it definately doesn't inspire confidence, does it?

The reason I ask is that I have learned on this site that you have different code requirements for traps, groundworks and so forth, and it seemed to me that this thing we're seeing here is looking too ugly to be legal, even though I know we have differences us/uk plumbing regs.

[suave]

oh dear!

[Mouldy]

Cant tell from those shot's if the waste is trapped or not tbh. Would need a wider picture.

[Colour Republic]

B&Q waste system too

i think it may well be Franke wastes in fact, and the installer has got himself in a little bit of a pickle with them

[Brinkley]

looks like the waste us going upwards to me blockage inevitable

[devonmark]

i can't stand plastic pipe, looks tacky

[Mike]

I didnt notice whether there was a trap on the waste, I'll check when i'm back there next in a couple of weeks. I don't do a lot of plumbing myself but I never use plastic or pushfits, nor does the plumber who I use

[Scott]

B&Q waste system too

Could be the Franke silver kit (spazio2) joins together to a single trap lower down, either way its a 40grand kitchen with £40 fitting

[puddle]

was going to sat kitchen only cost £4000 and the plumber £36,000

But no plumber involved

The reason you can not see trap base is because it is at the bottom of the unit,the silver coloured waste pipework running downwards should be cut to required length and thread on nut connecting to tap has ptfe tape on it for no reason,that and state of pipework under sink points to maybe a butcher or candle stick maker

nice to see electric plugs are colour coded though

[tfs]

I dont think those sockets should be there to be honest. Not 100 % sure but, cant imagine that work has been done legaly.

I may be wrong but, in my experience sockets under the unit normally have a fused swith above worktops (not a switched socket in a unit, especialy under the sink)

Deffo not something you would expect for a high end kitchen!

[Saltire69]

Agree with tfs. Thought that was illegal having plugs there.

[Brinkley]

its not illegal just not good practice sockets under a sink are a must for waste disposal units , water boilers etc push fit is a deff no no they take up too much room and also show lack of plumbing skill.

[Saltire69]

Are they not supposed to hard wired with on/off on splash back?

[Brinkley]

the ones we do are hardwired basicay on/off switches and they are usually located in the control centre which is normay under the sink.
A lot of our kitchens are high end and involve water boiler taps and waste disposal units and more often then not the customer wants these switches tucked away hence under the sink but my god those pics are shocking

[jay]

thats one high priced kit is it worth that really

[Mike]

i wouldn't say its worth that, but it has 4 neff ovens and granite tops. the units are metal so i guess that makes it expensive

[Scott]

The sockets or points in the kitchen for appliances have to be accessible for isolation so switched sockets is an acceptable method. Thats how i do it but try and locate them in the units adjacent to the sink base.