Is this acceptable?

[elybathrooms]

When using ceramic tiles, in my opinion it is un-acceptable to have a cut edge of tile against a good edge of the tile. Wether it be due to poor setting out or not wanting to trim along the top of half height tiling when it would finish on a cut, so just turning the tile round and having the cut edge facing down and good edge on top. So what your left with is a sharp square edge next to a rounded smooth edge.

If all that makes sense? Am I being to 'picky' I havent ever done this on my own tiling work but we have had another tiler do some work and there is about 5 tiles where this is the case.


Thanks for your opinions.

James

[doug boardley]

you're correct James

[Sir Ramic]

Wrong IMO

[Daz]

It is difficult to picture what you are saying, but in principle, it is not good practice to have a cut edge anywhere other than on an outer edge, i.e. external / internal corner.

[tfs]

Its not acceptable at all mate!

[whitebeam]

Do the tiles have a brown biscuit backing

[tfs]

I would say you can only get away with it with some stone/ design work. Certainly not with standard ceramic jobs

[kilty55]

poor work

[aph257]

Normally it's not acceptable IMO.

[faithhealer]

call him back james

[BoldreChris]

With ceramic tiles it allways looks crummy. As tfs says, you can do it with great skill and care when using stone or marble, etc. You're the customer so if you think it's not good enough, you're right. Get it re-done properly.

[elybathrooms]

Yeah brown buscuit back. My thought are exactly that, if it isnt a cut against a wall/ceiling or corner. The dilema I have is that the customer hasnt said anything, they seem really happy with the overall job. But it just doesnt sit well with me to leave it like that. But to redo it means taking of a entire wall of tiles to correct the setting out errors. Perhaps its best to let sleeping dogs lie. If they notice later I will be stood with egg well and trully on my face. If i point it out and say are you happy with that I'll look like i was trying to get it past them. I pride my business on having the highest of standards. Just doesnt sit well with me thats all.

[deanotile]

did you do the work ? i am a bit confused

[deanotile]

forget it i just read the rest of the post

[deanotile]

get the tiler back in to rectify it it is your reputation at stake

[Bri]

Remember the saying " You're only as good as your last job" the customers themselves may be happy with it, but at some point a friend or family member might notice it and ask, "who did your tiling?" and thats when a reputation gets tainted. You are right to feel uneasy. You quite clearly take great pride in your work and like to maintain a high standard. Just a thought.

[Scott]

If the cut is face up then its a potential disaster as that can be like a razor that edge.

[elybathrooms]

have booked to re do it tomo afternoon. Otherwise i will be sitting there eating me christmas pud wishing i had changed it. In truth i'm very suprised this tiler thought it was acceptable in the first place. Does anyone know wether the british standards for tiling cover this issue? I would rather not get into the 'its a matter of taste' argument.

[Sir Ramic]

have booked to re do it tomo afternoon. Otherwise i will be sitting there eating me christmas pud wishing i had changed it. In truth i'm very suprised this tiler thought it was acceptable in the first place. Does anyone know wether the british standards for tiling cover this issue? I would rather not get into the 'its a matter of taste' argument.

No its a matter of being rough !

[elybathrooms]

I personally think its is rough as hell but some others think its the done thing. Will see what he says.

[andy tiler]

COWBOY yeha some people have no pride

[cornish_crofter]

As soon as I read this I could see the problem.

You should avoid cut edges with ceramic tiles if at all possible. They will always be a sharp profile and will look out of place against all the other edges.

Porcelain is another matter provided the depth of colour is there. I have just done my 2nd wetroom former with envelope cuts for the fall. The last time the customer went out and bought the porcelain floor tiles after I had explained to him in great detail about dept of glazing etc so that you couldn't see the backing on the cut. It clearly went above his head as he came back with the cheapest OK looking porcelain floor tiles. He may as well have got ceramic FFS!

Anyway I managed to cut them and grout (using BAL ebony E/F grout). Despite the tiles being what they were I managed to hide it - just!

This time I narrowed the range of tiles down for the customer and he chose out of that range. The tiles are the same colour all the way through. They're not that expensive either, but are as hard as nails.

[timeless john]

Certainly sounds as though the room has been set out badly.
But why a cut at the half tile hieght - what was the criteria for it not being a full tile with a top glazed edge.
As you are this 'tilers' customer if you notice it - it's wrong, and WELL DONE for getting it changed.

[garythetiler]

I was taught if you have to meet cut tiles it should always be cut to cut and good edge to good edge, we were also made to ease the cut edge with a rubbing stone, I am sure this still stands today so in my opinion you are right to change the cuts

[cornish_crofter]

I was taught if you have to meet cut tiles it should always be cut to cut and good edge to good edge, we were also made to ease the cut edge with a rubbing stone, I am sure this still stands today so in my opinion you are right to change the cuts

With the envelope cut for the wetroom former cut to cut is what I did.

Unfortunately rubbing it with a rubbing stone would have just exposed more of the light coloured sub layer with the first wetroom :LOL:

[Sean fsy]

No point selling bathrooms etc if you cant supply the trademen to install and finish the job off correctly. Who pays your installers, Tilers? you or the customer direct?

[albyshellshear]

best to hide cuts if poss

[thegwads]

if customers do not want edging, on say a kitchen worktop at the sides, what is wrong with, if setting out deems it is the best way to lay, turning the last tile on a run around, so that a cut is facing a clean edge, so the final tile has a smooth edge facing out? if you catch my drift....
so lets say a 2.1m worktop length to tiel splashback wise, and you set out central to the taps or window, and it just so happens that the last tile needs to be cut down so it finishes flush to the end of the worktop. In this situation, i see nothing wrong with turning the tile around - in fact surely it is safer?
same applies to glass tiles, laid in brick bond formation, coming to a finish not against an interior corner. you need to finish flush lets say, so is it surely not better to turn cut around?

[Sean fsy]

if customers do not want edging, on say a kitchen worktop at the sides, what is wrong with, if setting out deems it is the best way to lay, turning the last tile on a run around, so that a cut is facing a clean edge, so the final tile has a smooth edge facing out? if you catch my drift....
so lets say a 2.1m worktop length to tiel splashback wise, and you set out central to the taps or window, and it just so happens that the last tile needs to be cut down so it finishes flush to the end of the worktop. In this situation, i see nothing wrong with turning the tile around - in fact surely it is safer?
same applies to glass tiles, laid in brick bond formation, coming to a finish not against an interior corner. you need to finish flush lets say, so is it surely not better to turn cut around?

Some times you just have to walk away from jobs if you think its not going to look right. After all its your name all over the job. Its ok for a customer to say yeh that will be fine, but if looked at from an outside point of view it may look rough and amatuerish bit of a diy disaster.