Help!: Mitre jointing - help

[fasteddie]

We are having our bathroom tiled and requested mitre joints. Our tiler is saying our tiles are not suitable for mitre joints, he gave a quick demo with his angle grinder and the ceramic all chipped and looked nasty.

They are 600 * 300. Im afraid we bought cheap tiles i think from indonesia.

Is this true as we have some doubts on the tilers ability, or are we paying for the fact we bought cheap tiles.

THe work he has done so far is pretty good, he has managed to "tile out" a number of imperfections on the walls.

He is suggesting aluminium edging as an alternative.

Is this common? You cant mitre cheap tiles?

Many thanks.
Ed

[Sir Ramic]

Are these glazed tiles? he could be right but without seeing one I couldnt be sure.

[doug boardley]

it's possible to mitre cheap tiles Ed without chipping the glaze, as long as the mitre is formed on an edge of the tile. The trick is to run it through the wet cutter at 45dgs, but keep the mitre a millimetre or so clear of the glaze, so at the tile edge you'll have a thickness of about a millimetre bevelled back. (Easier to do than explain)

[doug boardley]

these are mitred joints, the ones to the right of the pic. The lighting is casting a shadow making it look like a cut tile, but they're full tiles. And granted they're Porcelanosa tiles so not cheapies

[Sir Ramic]

These are highly glazed tiles and the glazed damaged easily when cut. To obtain the mitres I had to reverse the mitres on the half tiles so that as Doug says, I mitred 1mm away from the glaze. Photo-0179.jpg

[deanotile]

cut the tile on the dry cutter so it is the correct size and then as doug said miter the edge leaving 1mm to the glaze. if you run a bit of sand paper along the cut edge it will not brake out as much.

[marbleman]

the only way to miter edge is to wet cut , as dry cutting with grinder will chip the tile any way , to much hand shake and to try to keep angel correct .

[marbleman]

love the tiles sir ramic nics job sir

[YourTiler]

I'd rather use the mitre cutter in my Rubi than a grinder

But the wet cutter IS the way as has been suggested above

Maybe he's too lazy to do it ?????? it's possible

[Sir Ramic]

love the tiles sir ramic nics job sir

Cheers, only a smalll job but it was something different.

[Bolter]

We are having our bathroom tiled and requested mitre joints. Our tiler is saying our tiles are not suitable for mitre joints, he gave a quick demo with his angle grinder and the ceramic all chipped and looked nasty.

They are 600 * 300. Im afraid we bought cheap tiles i think from indonesia.

Is this true as we have some doubts on the tilers ability, or are we paying for the fact we bought cheap tiles.

THe work he has done so far is pretty good, he has managed to "tile out" a number of imperfections on the walls.

He is suggesting aluminium edging as an alternative.

Is this common? You cant mitre cheap tiles?

Many thanks.
Ed

Your tiler is using the wrong tool for the job. He needs to use his wet cutter, not a grinder.

[doug boardley]

Cheers, only a smalll job but it was something different.

was that one of your first jobs with the Dewalt, Neale?

[coolfox]

I did some Mitre jointing with Polished Marble tiles and end up cutting it to size then mitre 1mm down from the top edge. Finishing by hand after grouting, have to chamfer 1mm from corners polished with diamond lap, look good at the end :-)

[turnip]

the price of the tiles is irrelevant, its the quality of the glaze which can chip very slightly if the mitre is not cut on the edge. personally I will not recommend mitred edges cos its also a weak point on an external corner, go for stainless steel trims though something like Schluter Quadec is very nice.

[nybor62]

your tiler will never do it with a grinder , wet cutter is what is needed , still may have a few probs depends how good glaze is

[coolfox]

Turnip "stainless steel trims" looks good in commercial/office design but in the dwelling I would do the mitre join and you dont have to cut to the wery edge of glase step of like 1 mm and glase wouldnt chip in regsrds of week point properly grouted just as strong.

[Sir Ramic]

was that one of your first jobs with the Dewalt, Neale?

Yes mate , one of them.

[Phil Hobson]

As above for me, sometimes trim will not work eg. 22.5 deg. If you mitre manufactures edge 1mm away as stated above. You can achieve a good finish

[Dave]

As above for me, sometimes trim will not work eg. 22.5 deg. If you mitre manufactures edge 1mm away as stated above. You can achieve a good finish

There has so so much work gone into that room, only a tiler would appreciate.. perfection is my response..

[Phil Hobson]

Thank you Dave

[user123]

As above for me, sometimes trim will not work eg. 22.5 deg. If you mitre manufactures edge 1mm away as stated above. You can achieve a good finish

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[Phil Hobson]

Thank you Gisela

[deanotile]

well i think Phil Hobsons room looks rubbish my baby can do a better job than that and those miters look like you done them with your teeth. and you look fat in that pic in tile uk












only joking m8 i also voted for you and how you did not win is beyond me that job is stunning

[Phil Hobson]

Cheers Dean

[Alberta Stone]

I have found that even a wet saw with a good blade can leave chipped edges so then one uses either a fine diamond sanding puck to clean the edge up, or the joint is tightened up a bit and a dremel wheel (fine diamond) used to make the edge nice and smooth works quite well.
An angle grinder is great for so many things but it has its limitations and everyone but the tile butchers know this.

[Dave]

well i think Phil Hobsons room looks rubbish my baby can do a better job than that and those miters look like you done them with your teeth. and you look fat in that pic in tile uk












only joking m8 i also voted for you and how you did not win is beyond me that job is stunning

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[boldydave]

so if you mitre on the manufactured edge and you need a part tile,you would end up with a cut on the opposite end,which would have to go next to an uncut tile.is that how you would do it?

[Alberta Stone]

so if you mitre on the manufactured edge and you need a part tile,you would end up with a cut on the opposite end,which would have to go next to an uncut tile.is that how you would do it?

Maybe some would, but if you read my post above you will see how I do it.
I should have some pics to illustrate, but I don't, it really is pretty easy once you get it.

[deanotile]

so if you mitre on the manufactured edge and you need a part tile,you would end up with a cut on the opposite end,which would have to go next to an uncut tile.is that how you would do it?

no it is not how you do it. mark and cut the tile to size smooth the cut edge with sand paper or similar then miter the tile along the cut edge leaving 1mm to the glaze.

[doug boardley]

external and internal mitres in this pic