DIY Related: STud Wall

[boxfreak187]

Hello all.

i am planning on taking some old plaster off the wall and building a stud wall out of 2 x 1 timber, with 9mm plasterboard screwed in. Will this be ok to take the full 30 odd KG per square meter?

[doug boardley]

Hello all.

i am planning on taking some old plaster off the wall and building a stud wall out of 2 x 1 timber, with 9mm plasterboard screwed in. Will this be ok to take the full 30 odd KG per square meter?

absolutely not, far to unengineered

[boxfreak187]

what about dot and dab 9mm plasterboard? with regards to the stud wall, what kind of timber should be used to do it that way?

[brinkley]

are you taking a wall out ?

[doug boardley]

what you thinking of dot and dabbing your plasterboard onto?

[boxfreak187]

dot and dab onto brick. i am trying to keep the width down otherwise i will have to move the door frame over to allow for it. thats why i was wondering if i can use thin timber with loads of fixings to make it as strong as possible. i am not taking out the wall no, just taking the plaster off because its kind of weak and it comes off quite easily, done in the 80s i think, and i want to tile the wall. was going to tile over it but after reading things on here im a bit scared now!

[brinkley]

2x2 at leastif your making a stud wal to tile to

[brinkley]

then overboard with 12mm plasterboard and tank if in a shower or any area exposed to moisture or water

[brinkley]

dot and dab onto brick is ok even better if ypuscrew into the brick as well

[doug boardley]

dot and dab onto brick. i am trying to keep the width down otherwise i will have to move the door frame over to allow for it. thats why i was wondering if i can use thin timber with loads of fixings to make it as strong as possible. i am not taking out the wall no, just taking the plaster off because its kind of weak and it comes off quite easily, done in the 80s i think, and i want to tile the wall. was going to tile over it but after reading things on here im a bit scared now!

my apologies,i thought you were planning on making a stud partition wall out of 2 x 1

[boxfreak187]

ok. so if i dot and dab onto brick, by screwing, do u mean using normal brown plugs and screws? do i need some kind of washers to put in the screw heads? this is with 12mm board yes? its not a wet area, so no need to tank

[boxfreak187]

na mate, 2x1 straight into the brick, if thats ok ill do that coz i think its a bit easier to do, is it ok 2 do that?

[doug boardley]

yeah, although hardibacker 500 would be the best choice for 30kg/m2 tiles

[brinkley]

yes that is ok

[boxfreak187]

the tiles are not going to weigh the full 30kg per sqm, i was just wondering if it would be strong enough to hold the weight. so if i do use the 2x1 is it ok to use the 9mm board?

[brinkley]

yes just make sure the battons are no wider than 1 foot apart and have 3 noggins up each one aso make sure they are level upright

[doug boardley]

the tiles are not going to weigh the full 30kg per sqm, i was just wondering if it would be strong enough to hold the weight. so if i do use the 2x1 is it ok to use the 9mm board?

personally I'd advise against it, too flimsy imo, better using the 12.5mm, have you factored in the weight of the adhesive and grout per m2 too? (typically about an extra 4kg/m2)

[boxfreak187]

no i have not, but i think it will be ok using the 9mm plasterboard,thats what id like to do, simply because ive already got some in the garage! but if i need to get some 12mm i suppose ill have to, the thing is with that, the door may not open, which means i will have to move the door frame a little. its very tight! so if i dot and dab plasterboard with screw fixings, should i use the 9mm, or 12mm board? how would you screw fix the board?

[kilty55]

use 12.5mm for walls mate

[boxfreak187]

thanks, so what if i render the walls with sand cement mix? how thick would a base of this render have to be for best results?

[doug boardley]

sand and cement would be ideal (it's my favourite substrate to tile onto), you'd need it to be about half an inch thick, and leave it unskimmed.

[boxfreak187]

thanks for that, so the mix would be 3 plasterers sand and 1 cement? but before that pva the brick?

[Deri]

You won't have to go that strong 4 sand 1 cement with waterproofer added would be good, I'd also use sbr instead of pva. Also rake the joints out of the brickwork for extra key.

[whitebeam]

Your plastering sand has to be good quality, the larger B&Q and wickes stores have started to do good sand for the purpose