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    Default Screed with central heating pipe duct

    Just after some advice on what adhesive to use.

    Screed laid about a year ago and running across it is a duct which carry the central heating pipes. Duct is made of external grade ply with a screwed down cover. It's roughly 125 mm wide and 2.5 metres long. Totally forgot about the duct until I lifted the hardboard protecting the floor tonight.

    Porcelain tiles 500 x 500 are being laid on the screed and I have been provided with Tilemaster Rapid set adhesive. Should I use a flexible adhesive where the tiles run across the ducting?

    Just another question should the screed be primed with anything first before laying the adhesive?

    Any advice would be welcome.
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    Default Re: Screed with central heating pipe duct

    Hi and welcome..

    That timber section is going to create some stress within the screed at either side, personally i would overlay with an Uncoupling membrane..

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    Default Re: Screed with central heating pipe duct

    Does the duct need to be accessable
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    Default Re: Screed with central heating pipe duct

    Quote Originally Posted by Dave View Post
    Hi and welcome..

    That timber section is going to create some stress within the screed at either side, personally i would overlay with an Uncoupling membrane..
    What is an uncoupling membrane?

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    Default Re: Screed with central heating pipe duct

    Quote Originally Posted by whitebeam View Post
    Does the duct need to be accessable
    No, there are no joints within the duct

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jackswan View Post
    What is an uncoupling membrane?

    Underfloor Heating from Floor Heating Ltd
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    Default Re: Screed with central heating pipe duct

    Ok I now see what is meant by an uncoupling membrane.
    Also in the floor screed is a double seal inspection cover set at the correct height for tiles. If I was to fit this membrane the surface of the screed I assume would rise above the height of the inspection cover.


    Above is a photo of the duct and the position that the tiles will take across it.

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    Default Re: Screed with central heating pipe duct

    The decoupling is only 3mm thick
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    Default Re: Screed with central heating pipe duct

    Is that a manhole cover...?

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    Default Re: Screed with central heating pipe duct

    Quote Originally Posted by whitebeam View Post
    The decoupling is only 3mm thick
    How thick would it be with the adhesive to bond it as well?
    The room is approx 20m2 so I'm guessing that the cost would be around about £150 -£160 for just the materials alone, hell of a price

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    Default Re: Screed with central heating pipe duct

    You could at a push use Dural/kerdi/homelux over the ducting and bring it 6" over onto the screed either side, then there won't be any hight issues and will cover for any movement you might get on the ducting
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    Default Re: Screed with central heating pipe duct

    Thanks whitebeam, sounds good.
    Just reading a posting on this forum
    cracking screeds/tiles and underfloor heating
    about cracks in screeds and how to repair them before tiles are fitted.
    Using PCI PECILASTIC which apparently is only 0.8mm thick, but is it any good? This would be a good solution if it could just be laid say 6 inches either side of the ducting.
    Where would I be able to obtain some of this from if it was suitable?

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    Pjc uses pci and rates it highly
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