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    Just wondered how you guys do this.

    Using 10mm marble tiles large format. I set my battons up above the bath and round the room and then tiled all the walls upwards to the ceiling.

    Then I have to take the battons off and tile downwards finishing with my cut to the floor.

    while I am buttering up the next tile the first one is sliding down the wall. It seems really time consuming to do the battons a tile lower, wait for the addy to go off then move battons down again.

    Is there a quicker and easier way to tile downwards with out having to wait or growing extra arms?
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    re baton or do cut first then tile up to existing tiles

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    Quote Originally Posted by Graham Bright View Post
    Just wondered how you guys do this.

    Using 10mm marble tiles large format. I set my battons up above the bath and round the room and then tiled all the walls upwards to the ceiling.

    Then I have to take the battons off and tile downwards finishing with my cut to the floor.

    while I am buttering up the next tile the first one is sliding down the wall. It seems really time consuming to do the battons a tile lower, wait for the addy to go off then move battons down again.

    Is there a quicker and easier way to tile downwards with out having to wait or growing extra arms?

    set out your room mate,baton either walls off the bathleaving just your cut to the floor to do,once you up to bath height add batons to ajoin the bath and tie in,

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    Do your lower areas first, then fix the batton around the bath from the tiles you have already fixed.

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    I was going to say that

    you only leave the cut tile to fix after the battons are off
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    use rapid set for your first course sitting on the battens, ( although I hardly ever use battens these days)

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    If you set your room up with cuts on top of the bath, What is the best way of calculating where you start tiling on the other walls so I can batton at the bottom. If you know what I mean.
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    do you use a gauge rod and a datum line around the room
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    Do you use a datum line around the room and a gauging stick
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    Ahhh, this is hard to explain what I mean. lol
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    I've taped tiles befor now to stop them sliding. Although I tend to use battern stands for the first full tile round the room then I run a spirit level across the top of the bath tile and cut the tiles to the line then tile up from that. Then I remove battern stands tile floor if requiered then pop your bottom cuts in easy peasy

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    Are you tring to go with a full tile off the bath ?

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    Do you use a datum line around the room and a gauging stick
    At the moment I get my lines drawn in using an array of spirit levels lol.

    I draw my centre lines of the walls and then plan my cuts to the edges. I then look at windows and baths etc and plan my tiles floor to celing. Once I know all that I set my battons up above the bath and tile upwards to ceiling. I do that on all walls then remove battons and start tiling downwards.

    I always tile from the centre of the wall to the edges whether that be a centre grout line or centre tile or what ever works best. So....

    If I have a basic square room and assuming I am tiling from centre on all walls. If I am looking at the bath wall and its tiled to ceiling and I am moving on to the wall to my left, I have to start at the same height as the bath wall so I can put my battons on correctly.

    How would I calculate starting at the bottom ?? I always dred getting to the edge and the joints not meeting which is why I do iot this way
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    when you remove the baton fix the next tile and use masking tape to stop it sliding.

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    Do you use a datum line around the room and a gauging stick
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    youve got it pretty much sussed Graham

    when you have worked out your cut above the bath strike a line across to full wall workout full tiles down to your floor cut and fix a batten , tile up to your first full tile above your bathand fix your batten over your bath level with the top of your full wall tiles and tile away leaving only the cuts to do over the bath and to the floor
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    If using batons as said above baton at joint above bottom cut which you should know from your measurements !!
    baton around room and start to tile,when you get to bath level off from the top of the close tile and same at other end of bath ! hope this helps.
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    great minds think alike Dan
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    You could use rapid set to fix the first row of tiles along the bath wall. Tile up from that as normall then tile down to the first full tile then battern the rest of the walls from that hight and tile up.

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    my eyesights not that good mark
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    I think Mike has been looking over my shoulder while I'm typing
    I was going to ask if he used a gauge rod, but I didn't think to ask about the datum line per say. Then I saw you'd both said it, and at exactly the same time, haha.
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    I prefer to plan the whole wall floor to ceiling and bath level if required. then laser the first cut or s/level and set my cuts off the finished floor [I put the floor in first] and then work on up. No batons and I do not use offical tile spacers - ever. I use window fitters packers and reuse them.

    Its just he way I work - always have and it comes into its own will very large format tiles like 1000x330 and 900x300mm etc

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    Use an adhesive that has plenty of body / grab, PCI nanolite is great, you can hang a 600 x 600 porcelain tile no problems, although I still like to use spacers.

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    I prefer to plan the whole wall floor to ceiling and bath level if required. then laser the first cut or s/level and set my cuts off the finished floor [I put the floor in first] and then work on up. No batons and I do not use offical tile spacers - ever. I use window fitters packers and reuse them.

    Its just he way I work - always have and it comes into its own will very large format tiles like 1000x330 and 900x300mm etc

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    My old man's a window fitter, and he game me thousands. Used them a couple of times and then got a bit rough pulling one out once at height and the tile popped off (tubbed stuff, sorry guys - haha) and nearly hit the bath! - and I went straight back to spacers, which I'd still reuse 80% of them on every job.
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    If using batons as said above baton at joint above bottom cut which you should know from your measurements !!
    baton around room and start to tile,when you get to bath level off from the top of the close tile and same at other end of bath ! hope this helps.
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    your right Joe I didnt explain that bit right

    you do things and then when it comes to explain to others you leave crucial detail out

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    I prefer to plan the whole wall floor to ceiling and bath level if required. then laser the first cut or s/level and set my cuts off the finished floor [I put the floor in first] and then work on up. No batons and I do not use offical tile spacers - ever. I use window fitters packers and reuse them.

    Its just he way I work - always have and it comes into its own will very large format tiles like 1000x330 and 900x300mm etc

    Richard
    very similar way to myself Richard, altho' Longhorns never have glazing packers in any more

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    I draw my line for the bottom course, whether cuts or full tiles, then I adjust them to correct the height with tile wedges, then you have your datum edge and off you go.
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    I draw my line for the bottom course, whether cuts or full tiles, then I adjust them to correct the height with tile wedges, then you have your datum edge and off you go.

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