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Fixing Porcelain and Vitrified Tiles to Internal Walls


There is an increasing trend towards fixing porcelain and vitrified tiles to walls. With differing manufacturing processes and materials, larger, thicker format tiles, complying with BS6431 are being produced. Porcelain and vitrified tiles, unlike porous bodied tiles, shrink in the firing process therefore certain allowances have to be made to dimensional accuracy in the manufacturing process.
  1. Tile Types
    Porcelain /Fully Vitrified Tiles
    Fully vitrified tiles which can either be unglazed or glazed characterised by the tile's low water absorption below 0.5% (BIa) Porcelain tiles are normally dry pressed using a body made from Kaolin clays, feldspar, silica and colouring oxides fired to around 1200 degrees.
    Vitrified and Semi-Vitrified Tiles
    Tiles, which can either be unglazed or glazed. Tiles in this category can be either dry pressed or extruded and have water absorption of between 0.5 to 3%(vitrified) Class BIb – dry pressed, and 3% to 6% (semi-vitrified), Class BIIa – dry pressed.
  2. Tolerances
    Current British & European Standards for ceramic tiles define tolerances for dimensions of tiles. These vary depending on tile type and size as shown below:
    Tolerance for porcelain tile
    (BIa) or vitrified tile (BI)Tolerance for glazed tile
    porous body (BIII) (non-lug)10x10 cm tile 1mm0.75mm20x20 cm tile 1.5mm1 mm30x30 cm tile 1.8mm1.5mm
    Tolerances are also defined for centre curvature of tiles. These too vary depending on the type and size of tile.
    Tolerance for porcelain tile
    (BIa) or vitrified tile (BI)Tolerance for glazed tile
    porous body (BIII) (non-lug)10x10 cm tile .70 mm to -.70 mm.70 mm to -.42 mm20x20 cm tile 1.40 mm to -1.40 mm1.40 mm to -.85 mm30x30 cm tile2.12 mm to -2.12 mm2.12 mm to –1.27 mm
    (Negative curvature values indicate concave tiles) The tolerances for tile fixing set down within British Standard BS5385 for tile fixing are demanding and as a result of the differences in manufacturing and fixing tolerances, special consideration has to be given to fixing vitrified tiles to walls.
  3. Tile Fixing
    Full guidance is given in British Standard, BS5385 Wall and floor tiling. The following points should be remembered:
    1. <LI type=a>Background
      • The ideal background is cement:sand rendering
      • Weight restrictions for tiling onto plaster and plasterboard are defined in BS5385:1, i.e.
      • 25 kg/m2on plasterboard, and 20 kg/m2 on plaster
      • The background to receive tiling should be fully cured, dry, clean, sound and nominally
      • flat, such that when checked using a 2m straightedge, any gap under the
      • straightedge should not exceed 3mm.
      NOTE: Larger format tiles with a surface area greater than 0.1m2 may need additional mechanical fixing when used above 3 metres. <LI type=a>Setting Out
      Vitrified and porcelain bodied tiles are often polished for aesthetic purposes. The polishing process, which involves grinding, will reduce the thickness of the tiles and possibly the overall dimensions of the tile. Therefore extra care should be taken at the design stage and during installation.
      • Tiles should not be butt jointed
      • Pressed tiles should be spaced at a minimum of 3mm
      • Extruded tiles should be spaced at a minimum of 5mm
      • Rectified or calibrated tiles should be spaced at a minimum of 2mm
    2. Fixing
      • Lighting during tile fixing should be as close to the end use as possible
      • Tolerances for surface flatness are defined in BS5385
      • In a dry area a minimum area of contact of 75% should be achieved
      • In wet areas solid bed fixing is required
    3. Adhesives and Grouts
      • Use a polymer enhanced adhesive meeting the requirements for a cementitious Class
      • C2 adhesive defined in BS EN 12004
      • Grout meeting the requirements of BS EN 13888 should be applied as defined in BS5385
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Just like to say Dave nice to find this forum well done to all you guys you mention that Larger format tiles with a surface area greater than 0.1m2 may need additional mechanical fixing when used above 3 metres I often get asked to fix 60x60 above 2,4 mtrs and haven’t found any mechanical fixings for porcelain tiles any ideas regards Pete
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NICE!

You're robbing these from some decent places mate. Keep it up! lol
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hello Dan sorry mate seem to of missed it
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Interesting reading...............what does it all mean...........
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fred i am not 100% sure yet Pete
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heavy reading Dave Now im nursing one thumping migraine
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Just like to say Dave nice to find this forum well done to all you guys you mention that Larger format tiles with a surface area greater than 0.1m2 may need additional mechanical fixing when used above 3 metres I often get asked to fix 60x60 above 2,4 mtrs and haven’t found any mechanical fixings for porcelain tiles any ideas regards Pete

the fixings are for the substrate..say you had dot and dabbed plasterboard etc ..then screw and plug to give it extra hold........
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kids and cats are looking at me as if ive gone nuts....cant stop laughing. Hey migraine is clearing,must be the laughter, that Anadin sure is effective
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Nice one Gaz they helped my hangover this morning but did nothing for my technical headache but just as good as the answer bal
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Dave I am ok with that end of the fixing it’s how you fix them to the tile and where does one obtain these fixings’ if any one produces them (forgive my sense of humour I think I have been doing this to long my trowel maybe wearing out) regards Pete

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