Setting Out where to loose 17.4 cms

[footy_1]

Hi I am looking at where to start tiling my wet room walls with tiles that are 25cm high & have an excess 17.4 cm to loose. My inclination is to have the cut tile at floor level. The alternative as I see it is to cut top & bottom to the same dimensions.

Any advice would be greatly received.

[united]

I would go with your alternative and cut both top and bottom

[jay]

hi you also may have a bath vanity door jamb to add to the problem try to have the same size cut top and bottom but dont get caught with slithers over bath or vanity hope this helps

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[footy_1]

Thanks for your prompt reply much appreciated. Had an idea since posting my query that I use one less tile and add an addition, 5 cm border with a 6 cm cut tile between the two borders which will get over the problem, leaving a small trimm top and bottom to look ballanced.

[macten]

When you say small trim do you mean a slither cut?
Best to avoid them mate as aesthetically they are not pleasing.
Set out so you have the largest equal cut top and bottom if possible - but take into account other obstacles like tops of doors, windows, boxing in etc...

[chris.tiling]

depending on other height issues (bath / vanity etc) I would always advise to cut top and bottom - never seen a truly level ceiling and the best way to overcome your issue is to cut both

[SandyFloor]

Always leave a cut top, bottom & corners. That way you never have any awkward gaps.

[david campbell]

leave the biggest possible cuts at the top and bottom,this will help make any variences in floor and roof levels un-noticable,believe me i have very rarely came across a room where either is level

[Dan]

The correct way to set out would be to find the high point of the ceiling, and the low point of the floor. This is your actual room size (should you draw a level line around the room and measure to the highest and lowest point you'd acheive the same as physically levelling both and judging it, but you'll also have some measurements in your mind [i.e. the amount each falls out of level) to help with your set out) and you need to work out the setting out with those factors included, but also the other obsticles on each wall such as windows and the likes, and even furniture if you want to make those look like they were meant to go exactly in the middle of a grout joint, or middle of a tile, sort of thing.

Spend time setting out, and the key is, to know where every tile will sit before you actually get the adhesive out. You'll know each cut size, and you'll have made quite a few adjustments to ensure they're all as best they can be.

[mikethetile]

well explained Dan

[DJS]

+1 dan. I could never put all that into so few words...well done!! Did you forget to mention the tile staff and marking the datum line on it

I had a setting out incident the other day, where the customer wanted a vertical grout line centered on the shower, I said it would look best centered on toilet in middle of room. To pursuade them to my way of thinking, I actually drew out the grout lines on the wall (in brick bond!) and showed the 10mm and 80mm strips it would leave at each side of the room.

Same principle applies to top and bottom cuts also. Best to go for an even'ish top and bottom cut, adjusted to suit bath, vanity, WC, window, shower tray etc Best go with whatever's most prominent, or the biggest feature.

[Phil Hobson]

+1 dan. I could never put all that into so few words...well done!! Did you forget to mention the tile staff and marking the datum line on it

I had a setting out incident the other day, where the customer wanted a vertical grout line centered on the shower, I said it would look best centered on toilet in middle of room. To pursuade them to my way of thinking, I actually drew out the grout lines on the wall (in brick bond!) and showed the 10mm and 80mm strips it would leave at each side of the room.

Same principle applies to top and bottom cuts also. Best to go for an even'ish top and bottom cut, adjusted to suit bath, vanity, WC, window, shower tray etc Best go with whatever's most prominent, or the biggest feature.

Staff every time for me, every job is different. I try to acheive an
aesthetically pleasing effect, I spend as long as it takes setting out. Never fix your first tile, until you know where your last tile will go.

[pete f]

very good advice why dont they datum and staff anymore

[Phil Hobson]

We do Pete.

[borgie]

i staff all the time. it's the only way!

[macten]

Me too!