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    Default this is very interesting!!!!

    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1kk9LWuUIY4]YouTube - gyvlon screed to barn conversion[/ame]

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    Default Re: this is very interesting!!!!

    Well to me it looks to wet a mix..

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    Default Re: this is very interesting!!!!

    I am in the process of organising Gyvlon Screed installation training with Lafarge
    Loads of work out there !

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    Default Re: this is very interesting!!!!

    i wish i could do that tomoz instead 60m2 of 3-1 screed to lay in pool floor

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yorkshire Tiling Services View Post
    I am in the process of organising Gyvlon Screed installation training with Lafarge
    Loads of work out there !
    what so you will pump and lay like this???

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    Default Re: this is very interesting!!!!

    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WzNR5QdqxyE]YouTube - Putzmeister Mixokret M740D applying traditional cement based floor screed[/ame] this is the traditional way

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    Default Re: this is very interesting!!!!

    Unsure yet.
    Pumps are available to hire. Training is free.
    Not many tiler / ( anhydrite ) screeders out there, loads of opportunites for those who can. Also you have the advantage of knowing your screed is installed correctly if it needs to be tiled.

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    Default Re: this is very interesting!!!!

    I have seen 3 screeds now and none have been laid flat in the transition between doorways..

    And one i have to do in october.. the builder has visited a few and he said the same about the doorways.. this is the area's Nick that need to be spot on.

    It seems that it must be between pours and the screeders need to take more care..

    But this can be sorted by removing the slight hump the next day before the screed is too hard.

    So many screeders think they can lay gyvlon and they can't.. it isn't as easy as some peeps think..anyone can just pour but getting it super flat is a skill..

    Good luck on the training.. Alan is a top bloke..

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    Default Re: this is very interesting!!!!

    Hi, How can you get on a training course for laying a gyvlon floor ? Its something i would be interested in !

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    Default Re: this is very interesting!!!!

    Gooner - my back aches just looking at what you are doing. Do you lay your screeds to falls or are the generally flat in the pool bases. If flat there are cement based flowing materials you could use which would take a lot of the back ache out of it.

    Nick - best of luck with it. Not sure if I will be delivering that course as I am on holiday but Craig is a good bloke. Be gentle with him on the floor prep for tiling though cos he not as up to speed as some. You got my number though

    Dave there should be joints in the screed across doorways but I appreciate these are rarely used and this is a weak point in many screeders. I don't always get this bit right myself either. You are right it is not a simple as it looks but at the same time it is easier than sand cement.

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    Ajax yes it's hard work we mix by hand in a cement mixer and my lad will barrow it into me in the bottom of the pool were i will have another barrow to collect and place where i need it on to a sub-straight with SBR +cement slurry for bonding , so any info on the flowing screed's that would be suitable for a pool base ( flat-bottom ) one, would be greatly appreciated mate

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    The guy using the traditional semi- dry screed ,seems to have a very thin edge. I always use a 3m long 75mmx50mm for semi-dry. ( done hundreds of thousands of m2 this way) Using both onsite mix with pumps, and readymix. as Alan says the old way is back breaking work. I had a screeder from Shirley, Birmingham called Tony Cullen. I always thought I was pretty good/ fast with traditional method, untill I met Tony. He was mustard, I could keep up with him (just) but with sweat dripping off me. Tony would be Whistling away, no effort to him

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phil Hobson View Post
    The guy using the traditional semi- dry screed ,seems to have a very thin edge. I always use a 3m long 75mmx50mm for semi-dry. ( done hundreds of thousands of m2 this way) Using both onsite mix with pumps, and readymix. as Alan says the old way is back breaking work. I had a screeder from Shirley, Birmingham called Tony Cullen. I always thought I was pretty good/ fast with traditional method, untill I met Tony. He was mustard, I could keep up with him (just) but with sweat dripping off me. Tony would be Whistling away, no effort to him
    top screeder's become ledgend's mate!! i worked with one years ago he could lay 15 ton's before dinner time and never used a float to rubb up,just straight edge and trowel and he was spot on

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    top screeder's become ledgend's mate!! i worked with one years ago he could lay 15 ton's before dinner time and never used a float to rubb up,just straight edge and trowel and he was spot on
    I only met one guy who could do this. He still in business in Norfolk and can lay 200m2 a day easily - he too just uses straight edag and trowell. I tried to get him on flowing screeds once but he said he can make so much money on sand cement that he does not need to do anything else. When he priceshe seems to just think of a number add a couple of noughts and that is what he charges. He works on well deserved reputation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gooner59 View Post
    top screeder's become ledgend's mate!! i worked with one years ago he could lay 15 ton's before dinner time and never used a float to rubb up,just straight edge and trowel and he was spot on


    Dave I never use a float, Just the edge and wrist movement. (no rude comments please)

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    i spoze it was the way i was taught rule, float ,trowel,

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    Default Re: this is very interesting!!!!

    Hi Ajax, I'm in the north east. As i said it is something i'm very interested in coz there is nothing worse than a poorly prepared floor, that will be tiled. Keep getting people say ' the tiler will get over that '

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    same here

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    Hi Ajax, I'm in the north east. As i said it is something i'm very interested in coz there is nothing worse than a poorly prepared floor, that will be tiled. Keep getting people say ' the tiler will get over that '
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    Hi Ajax, have not recieved the PM yet. Don't want to rush you but i'm eager for this. Cheers mate

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    Quote Originally Posted by simonb43 View Post
    Hi Ajax, I'm in the north east. As i said it is something i'm very interested in coz there is nothing worse than a poorly prepared floor, that will be tiled. Keep getting people say ' the tiler will get over that '
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