Brick effect.........the rules

[popeye]

Hi Again........ I have been reading with interest on the forum about Brick Bond. Well I have read conflicting views regarding the wrap onto next wall.......should it be carried on if you finish with a cut of 15cm and the tiles are 40cm - should the next tile be 25cm. I have had a look at a couple of pics of where if it finishes with 30cm the next tile is also 30cm and it looks good also???

I have put my diagram on paper and now not so sure???

[Phil Hobson]

Hi Popeye, there is nothing "set in stone" each job warrants it's own set out. The wrap around is good, But if you can centre every wall ( window being paramount imo) I find I have to centre off centre, if you follow me, on some walls. So you end up with good size cuts, but alternate coarses Hope this makes sense

[popeye]

Thanks Phil, I am using 40cm tiles and would like it to finish even on one side of the wall (1/2 and full tiles) and at the opposite end the cuts are 14cm and 34cm. Only problem is I haven't really centred the tiles but estimated as there is a shower screen across it won't matter!!

[diamondtiling]

Thanks Phil, I am using 40cm tiles and would like it to finish even on one side of the wall (1/2 and full tiles) and at the opposite end the cuts are 14cm and 34cm. Only problem is I haven't really centred the tiles but estimated as there is a shower screen across it won't matter!!

It would to me, cant you set it out as best as possible to get a wrap around effect?

[popeye]

By wrap around effect you mean matching the tile to make a full one?

[pete f]

popeye just centre every wall you can wrap it but it will look good in one corner and then awful in another if u know what i mean

[popeye]

Think its back to the drawing board

[pete f]

ok mty

[Phil Hobson]

Popeye if you are still unsure, PM me or ring. I will talk you through it

[Daz]

It is very difficult to explain without putting marks on the walls and being able to see every obstacle that can effect the setting out.

My preference is to find the "main" focal point and start there (i.e bath, cooker etc.). I would try to start by centring that feature and then work out my cuts from there. When going around a corner you should add the thickness of the tile to the return cut (although I tend to add a few millimetres more to enhance the effect). If you find that you have slither cuts at any obstacle (beit a window or corner etc.) then you will need to move the initial datum accordingly to improve the cuts all around the room.

If you are doing a kitchen splashback, you can get away with not following the pattern as everyone puts a microwave or coffee machine in the corners and hides the tiling.

I hope this makes sense.

Daz

[popeye]

Thanks Phil & Slower - I have figured out the wraparound - I think I was thrown off course because I had been looking at a couple of brochures, B&Q, Johnson tiles etc., and the photos show the opposite, each tile matches in width around the corners - it looks ok because they are large tiles, but will go with the wrap around - love a challenge!!

[popeye]

It was watching this video which threw me also - he starts from corner and doesn't wrap around !![ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ssmmZDTKfvM]YouTube - How To Tile A Bathroom Wall - Doing The Job[/ame]

[Scott]

Popeye i wouldnt take too much notice of that video. You dont have a grout joint in the corner, it a silicone joint. And dont tile over painted plaster, your tiles will only be stuck to the paint!

Im not sure but he could also be using tubbed adhesive as they mention leaving overrnight for the adhesive to go off. That tile is far too big for tubed addy

[Daz]

I think I'm going to post some videos on car mechanics. Don't get me wrong, I'm definitely no mechanic, but I reckon if I use a "Mechanic It Yourself" title then I should be okay; I'm going to mock up a logo too .

I'm going to start by showing how to bleed brakes and replace brake pads but only show 50% of the technique required and produce a disclaimer that says it ain't my fault you hit a tree.

Your video post shows two "boys" gently placing tiles onto adhesive that is not suitable for the size of tile and then very quickly skipping over the grouting process. Please do not follow any of the advice in this video footage! Wrong adhesive, poor fixing technique and no advice as to correct grouting techniques.

I forgot to mention that he has paid absolutely no attention to setting out the room.

[Scott]

Reckon i must have pipped you on the typing there

[Houston]

hi just set out every wall first so u know wat size cuts you have got you can pinch a bit here and there and it does look better if tiles fold round,

[diamondtiling]

I was nice and calm before you posted that shocking video.


Eejits.

[david campbell]

obviousy not every wall can accomodate the wrap around effect.
u shaped kitchens where teh window and cooker are on the same wall can cause havoc
i have set out where no matter what you do you will end up with a ridiculous cut somewhwere so you have to alter a corner somewhere to suit but as long as it's in the ball park then you should be ok

[popeye]

Hi Look forward to the Mechanics video!! I agree about the adhesive. Have figured the wall out now! Its a small bathroom and in one corner there is a post that juts out - worked it out the smallest cut will be 14cm ...in my head its working, proof is in the pudding! Have a good w/end guys.

[Phil Hobson]

It was watching this video which threw me also - he starts from corner and doesn't wrap around !!YouTube - How To Tile A Bathroom Wall - Doing The Job

Thanks Popeye I love a good laugh this video is priceless, these guys have never held a trowel before. Absolute tosh imo, but very funny. Take no notice listen to the advice given on this forum, you won't go far wrong