600 by 300 porcelain tiles on painted walls sealing with pva

[cass]

Went to look at a job the other day i have mentioned it in another thread,someone i know wanted there bathroom tiled in 300by 600 porcalain tiles i advised him that the tiles are to heavy as his walls are brick with skim.I told him maybe he should think about a smaller tile but that was the ones he wanted and dident want to take them back.I also advised him he would have have to dot and dab walls and secure with fixings so it could take weight.yhe thing is he has a freind who is a joiner and freind who is a plumber,they said i was talking absolute rubbish and told him not to deal with me they advised him to pva the painted walls and tile straight on to it,could any of you pro tilers out there explain the risks of doing this as i am going to e mail the threads to him any input would be much areciated.














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[deno3]

sorry to say cass im with the plumber and joiner on this 1 have a look at might pics and you can see what im all about

[obobsmith]

Big tiles.....painted walls then PVA........mmmmm = accident waiting to happen.
Perhaps joiners and plumbers should stick to what they Know.

[deno3]

tell them i will do it

[david campbell]

sorry to say cass im with the plumber and joiner on this 1 have a look at might pics and you can see what im all about

p.v.a?
painted walls?

what substrate do you think you are tiling onto?
because if you think a layer of p.v.a can hold 600x 300mm porcelain tiles then i think 99.5% of people on here will disagree

[Colour Republic]

p.v.a?
painted walls?

what substrate do you think you are tiling onto?
because if you think a layer of p.v.a can hold 600x 300mm porcelain tiles then i think 99.5% of people on here will disagree

I think he was being ironic


Cass, there are hundreds of threads on here that highlight your point, if you do a search then just enter the threads, copy and paste the links in to an email and send away mate

[Phil Hobson]

Cass don't do it mate, recipe for disaster imo. Tell the joiner/plumber to butt out, clowns

[kilty55]

sorry to say cass im with the plumber and joiner on this 1 have a look at might pics and you can see what im all about

hello deno 3,this is the wrong way to aproach the job mate ,,and pva is a nono

[doug boardley]

tell him you'll stick the tiles on with tomato ketchup too, as the result will be the same

[doug boardley]

sorry to say cass im with the plumber and joiner on this 1 have a look at might pics and you can see what im all about

very wrong deno, do you have pics of the tiles falling off?

[obobsmith]

tell him you'll stick the tiles on with tomato ketchup too, as the result will be the same

Up here we would never dream of using tomato ketchup, porridge being the prefered addy ( salt no sugar)

[deno3]

will any 1 ever get any tiles on their walls the way you lot carry on dont use the pva get som white star and stick them on what ever

[obobsmith]

will any 1 ever get any tiles on their walls the way you lot carry on dont use the pva get som white star and stick them on what ever

600 x 300 tiles tubbed addy mmmmmmmmmmmmmm so it's only about getting tiles on walls, well hold on a god darned minute while I put on ma chaps, sling my saddlebags on trigger and get outa town.

[Colour Republic]

OK I was wrong, he wasn't being ironic

[paulyoung666]

OK I was wrong, he wasn't being ironic

not sure what he is being to be honest

[jamie B]

will any 1 ever get any tiles on their walls the way you lot carry on dont use the pva get som white star and stick them on what ever

apart from the fact that white star isn't even around anymore ( I believe it's now BAL Grip) these tiles are too big...not trying to be shirty with you mate, but that's not brilliant advice..Pva & paint is a recipe for wearing those tiles at some point when you're in the bath!...it's not all about slapping them up and having it off..there's some really decent tilers on this forum..it might sound pedantic to you...others might just say professional.

[Phil Hobson]

If I was marching with an army of 100 men, and 99 of them were in step would it be me out of step?

[david campbell]

apart from the fact that white star isn't even around anymore ( I believe it's now BAL Grip) these tiles are too big...not trying to be shirty with you mate, but that's not brilliant advice..Pva & paint is a recipe for wearing those tiles at some point when you're in the bath!...it's not all about slapping them up and having it off..there's some really decent tilers on this forum..it might sound pedantic to you...others might just say professional.

totally agree mate but you can still get white star(grip is the water resistant allegadly non-slip stuff that spreads a bit like porridge)

[whitebeam]

will any 1 ever get any tiles on their walls the way you lot carry on dont use the pva get som white star and stick them on what ever

[hunter]

PVA is a no no for starters, acrylic primer is the boy! Do the job and leave some complimentary hard hats so they can wear them in the shower!

[Phil Hobson]

will any 1 ever get any tiles on their walls the way you lot carry on dont use the pva get som white star and stick them on what ever

Is this a wind up, please say it is

[jamie B]

totally agree mate but you can still get white star(grip is the water resistant allegadly non-slip stuff that spreads a bit like porridge)

can you?..haven't used it for years and was told last time I asked for it that it was now grip..to be honest I rarely use tubbed nowadays!..thanks for the heads up tho!

[Dave]

will any 1 ever get any tiles on their walls the way you lot carry on dont use the pva get som white star and stick them on what ever

Our members like to follow Bs 5385 standards...

Have you seen or heard of these..? if so why would you use PVA or a dispersion adhesive on tiles of that size..?

This might help you>> P.v.a. Versus Primers...... and we do not condone you advising members to use anything that isn't suitable.

Obviously you have joined for a reason be it to try and gain work or whatever , but a quick read of these will show you how we go on >> Forum Rules

[david campbell]

i sometimes use white star on splashbacks if i've got the floor to do and won't be grouting till the next day

[Scott]

i sometimes use white star on splashbacks if i've got the floor to do and won't be grouting till the next day

That almost reads like you use it on the floor david, I know what you meant but that isnt how it reads

[jamie B]

i sometimes use white star on splashbacks if i've got the floor to do and won't be grouting till the next day

crikey..last time I remember using it was on a persimmons site in 2003(!?!) where it had been specified for the boxings in all the bathrooms!...all I remember about it was it was a pain to wash off in the summer!

[obobsmith]

Our members like to follow Bs 5385 standards...

Have you seen or heard of these..? if so why would you use PVA or a dispersion adhesive on tiles of that size..?

This might help you>> P.v.a. Versus Primers...... and we do not condone you advising members to use anything that isn't suitable.

Obviously you have joined for a reason be it to try and gain work or whatever , but a quick read of these will show you how we go on >> Forum Rules

Thank the lord Dave I have a very sore head from banging against a very "thick" wall.
I'm now off to have a glass of red and watch Avatar,as I have been fightin the cause today PVA and Tanking fronts and me chaps are chafing.

[deanotile]

sorry to say cass im with the plumber and joiner on this 1 have a look at might pics and you can see what im all about

i have had a look at your pics deno3 and im not impressed the steps are trash and your advice is wrong. i have sympathy for any person that ends up with you doing there tiling.

[doug boardley]

sorry to say cass im with the plumber and joiner on this 1 have a look at might pics and you can see what im all about

I had a look at your pics deno, if that was my bath with all the rubble in the bottom, I'd be more than a tad annoyed, where was your bathboard/protector?