accused of over-kill...?

[CJ CERAMICS]

today i have been working on a bathroom with a plumber that the customers have employed. while preparing the floor ready for tiling the plumber stood in the doorway watching my every move. upon completion of the said prep the plumber asked why i had done what i had done????.
Sorry i said what do you mean? well all of what you have done is a bit overkill isnt it.

Now this floor is a tongue and groove wooden floor which has been nailed to the joists..so i screwed down the floorboards to reduce the movement and ensured that the nail heads were below the wood. i then layed the pre-cut and sealed 18mm mpb and proceded to pilot hole at 100mm intervals...once this was completed i then counter sunk all holes to ensure that no screw heads were protruding...and then i screwed the ply down using approx 400 screws.

there is no way i would have done it like that he said.....i would have only used about 100 screws and i would have hammered any heads that were above level.

this is the way that i always prep floors...am i guilty of over kill or do you guys do roughly the same.

chris

[mikethetile]

thats why your a tiler and hes only a plumber

[PJ Tiling]

Sounds like a professional job to me!

Trouble with other trades these days is they are always keen to cut corners in search of the quick buck.

[Phil Hobson]

Chris this is why you are a tradesman, you care. Short cuts are for idiots

[Sir Ramic]

Didnt he have any leaks to make ???

[Phil Hobson]

Four posts, all done at the same time, all say the same thing, quality

[doug boardley]

he was probably concerned about unscrewing it all when his joints leak

[Gazzatile]

Spot on, good work always takes time and effort

[TF Ed]

this is part of the problem i am finding cj. i want to do things the right way because its my name on the tiles if things go wrong. then you get people whining because they have already spent £500 on the tiles and they dont want to pay any more than they have to for the tiling or the correct prep work....its really soul destroying and part of me thinks why do i bother but then, i remember what an old plasterer told me who was outstanding, ' do it the proper way lad, 'do you wanna be one of the best, or one of the rest??? dont let these idots take away your pride in you work...one day, just one day, customers might realise that doing things the correct way, actually saves them money in the long term!!!!

keep doin it the right way cj

[whitebeam]

Stay as you are mate and keep it proffesional

[Scott]

Total overkill................


























Gotcha!

Only joking, dont be bothered by what others think, its your name on the job!

[timeless john]

Plywood - are you using plywood. What happened to waterproof building paper/chicken wire/sand & cement? I don't know you young uns have it easy 400screws!

[redmist6]

He might have been worrying whether he'd tightened all the speedfit elbow and straight connectors up....!....Good arrows mate!

[Phil Hobson]

Plywood - are you using plywood. What happened to waterproof building paper/chicken wire/sand & cement? I don't know you young uns have it easy 400screws!

Building paper, chicken wire/ expanded metal, sand and cement. Those were the days John, us old uns have to be bloody chemists now, hey ho.

[timeless john]

Building paper, chicken wire/ expanded metal, sand and cement. Those were the days John, us old uns have to be bloody chemists now, hey ho.

And we have to wear latex gloves to protect our hands!

[diamondtiling]

Didnt he have any leaks to make ???

I will be using that line when I meet a dodgy plumber.

[nybor62]

well done cj there only one way , the right way

[user123]

CJ, quality is SUCH a turn on .... there might be a reason why plumbers have to turn things off first?? No aftershock then...

[Pebbs]

CJ The same thing happened to me the other day.....I was doing some setting out and the plumber was standing there just staring....then I realised he was looking down my top!
Take no notice of Mr Kwality plumber you can never have to many screws sometimes!

Pebbs

[CJ CERAMICS]

CJ The same thing happened to me the other day.....I was doing some setting out and the plumber was standing there just staring....then I realised he was looking down my top!
Take no notice of Mr Kwality plumber you can never have to many screws sometimes!

Pebbs

LOL

[mikethetile]

CJ The same thing happened to me the other day.....I was doing some setting out and the plumber was standing there just staring....then I realised he was looking down my top!
Take no notice of Mr Kwality plumber you can never have to many screws sometimes!

Pebbs

did you want to rephrase that pebbs ...........................or not

[troweler]

Am i the only one who thinks its slightly overkill?

[mikethetile]

Am i the only one who thinks its slightly overkill?

yep!!!!!!!!!

[Phil Hobson]

Am i the only one who thinks its slightly overkill?

Sorry mate got to agree with Mike

[whitebeam]

Got to agree with Phil and Mike

[troweler]

Cool chaps each to their own i prefer hardibacker or cement board myself and i dont see the need to countersink when the screw heads will go beneath the surface if screws are the correct size.

[Phil Hobson]

Cool chaps each to their own i prefer hardibacker or cement board myself and i dont see the need to countersink when the screw heads will go beneath the surface if screws are the correct size.

I agree backer-board, is my preferance

[troweler]

Easier to lug up the stairs too.I used to use 18mm ply all the time myself and still do if its a big bathroom floor and im worried about the bounce i just feel that with a standard bathroom say 6-7m 15mm ply is ample if you are using ply especially with todays kit.Mapie S2is my personal favourite.

[troweler]

mapei i mean

[Phil Hobson]

From the recent posts on here re: poor quality ply, I lean towards backer-boards when I can