Need help please

[123mazzy]

please help us!!!! my husband is not at all new to diy and we have renovated thre houses in our 27 years of marriage and lived in them all happily till moving on.The problem is now he is losing confidence in himself and we are doing the bathroom for the 4th time in the same house and hopefully the last! The place we have bought the tiles for the bathroom have supplied us with soverign gripmaster adhesive and the tiles are 33x50cm,he tiled the shower area on sat 13th feb and we have noticed tonight that some of the tiles are loose at the corners so he has started to remove them,hence i have had tears,there is no adhesive on the back of the tles but the adhesive is coming off the wall by scraping,he has now given up as certtain areas need chisseling off. we really went to town to get this right and even put aquapanel in the shower area,what has he done wrong? advice really appreciated,thanks,maz.

[grumpygrouter]

Hi Maz, I have moved your question to it's own thread. It will get a better response here.

Welcome to the forums. I am sure you will receive plenty of help.

[Dave]

The tile is too big for that adhesive and is not drying properly..

You will need a slow setting cement based adhesibe and preferbly in white.

Tell hubbs to use a deeper notch trowel to make sure he gets a better coverge on the tiles..

[whitebeam]

Gripmaster is a tubbed dispersion adhesive and dries by evaporation, the adhesive would have taken forever with tile size you were fixing.

You should have been advised by the shop that sold you the adhesive/tiles that a powdered single part flexible would have been the right one to use

[123mazzy]

thanks sorry to invade another post but not sure what i had to do and im desperate!x

[doug boardley]

I've never used sovereign gripmaster, but I'm assuming it's a dispersion, ie tubbed adhesive, your tiles are too large for this type of adhesive, you need a cementitious (powder,bagged) adhesive. Make sure the back of your tiles are free from dust and give a slight twisting motion when offering them into the adhesive (spread onto the aquapanel with a 8mm square notch trowel), this should work for you

[doug boardley]

ha ha those guys above are faster typists than me!

[diamondtiling]

The supplier owes you an explanation and some compensation, why do they insist on tubbed adhesive??

Numptys........

[123mazzy]

we chose the tiles and told them we needed xgrout and adhesive and thats what they gave us,what do we do?should we take all the tiles off and start again?

[doug boardley]

I would, and take the job lot back to the numpty that advised you that it was ok

[whitebeam]

Just to get this straight you said what grout/adhesive you wanted

[lcjohno]

you do need to take the tiles off and start again. Tubbed adhesive can sometimes come of quite easily with warm water and a scraper. Try soaking the tiles in a bucket to get it off them.

[Dave]

You will be able to remove what you have put on and use another better adhesive and they will go back on as you have took them off... just stuck on better..

[123mazzy]

you do need to take the tiles off and start again. Tubbed adhesive can sometimes come of quite easily with warm water and a scraper. Try soaking the tiles in a bucket to get it off them.

hubby now gone to bed with strong cup of tea and a few more grey hairs!! ther is no tile adhesive at all on the backs of the tiles!! but as the grout is exsposed to the air it is now getting harder to get of the aqua panel,we didnt ask for specific adhesive and grout they just supplied and charged us .

[whitebeam]

As Doug said I'd be bringing my wrath to the tile shop who advised you wrongly and supplied badly.

[123mazzy]

i want you guys as neighbours, pop in for a cuppa anytime and you can sort the tiling out while the ketle boils!!

[Dave]

No probs.. see you tomorrow//

[123mazzy]

As Doug said I'd be bringing my wrath to the tile shop who advised you wrongly and supplied badly.

hubby wont let me go with the wrath to the tile shop or pmt!! as he says he must have done something wrong.

[whitebeam]

Nothing your hubby has done.

[doug boardley]

nope, bleeding tile shops need to educate their employees, it could be a case of misrepresentation if a person was injured!

[Alan.P]

ther is no tile adhesive at all on the backs of the tiles!!

That to me sounds as if hubby has taken to long between applying adhesive to walls and fixing the tiles, the adhesive may have 'skinned' and that is why none has stuck to the tile, not to take away from the point of tubbed adhesive being used when it shouldn't have been.

i want you guys as neighbours, pop in for a cuppa anytime and you can sort the tiling out while the ketle boils!!

Where are you in the country, maybe someone could pop in if needed, even if for a word or two and a cuppa

[123mazzy]

thankyou all so much for your replys,you are the topps! why dont the tile shops emol=ploy people like you? i will be going back to the tile shop tomorrow and will let you know their response,wish me luck and thanks again xx

[doug boardley]

thankyou all so much for your replys,you are the topps! why dont the tile shops emol=ploy people like you? i will be going back to the tile shop tomorrow and will let you know their response,wish me luck and thanks again xx

No, we're not the Topps, we're better, we're professional tilers!

[123mazzy]

That to me sounds as if hubby has taken to long between applying adhesive to walls and fixing the tiles, the adhesive may have 'skinned' and that is why none has stuck to the tile, not to take away from the point of tubbed adhesive being used when it shouldn't have been.





Where are you in the country, maybe someone could pop in if needed, even if for a word or two and a cuppa

south anston,worksop,s25 5dj,that would be great! one sugar or two?

[whitebeam]

Someone mentioned Tea

[Alan.P]

Someone mentioned Tea

Your too far away lol.


I pass on a regular basis, would have been tomorrow but a job was cancelled. If your still in need when I pass next, I'll pop in for sure

[doug boardley]

where's Worksop then? gotta be midlandsish with a name like that, Staffs, Derbyshire way?

[Alan.P]

Off the M1 by the M18 intersection

[whitebeam]

Thats nearly Yorkshire, your right Alan a tad to far even for a cuppa

[123mazzy]

going to the tile shop today to see what they have to say about supplying the wrong adhesive for the job,hubby staying at home to try and get the grout off the walls that has set on contact with the air. do we have to get all of it off?and what adhesive have i got to get to make the job a good one?? many thanks for any advice.