What do tilers class as hard to master

[Craig_007]

I'm trying to find out what are the things that tilers found hard to master when they started tiling?

One more question i'm tiling my mums bathroom floor but it's floorboards what's the standard in regards to the layers step by step?

[youngstiling]

what do you mean by layers?

1.remove wc and wash hand basin...dont attempt to cut round them.may need plumber

2.ply floor min 6mm depth

3.use flexible adhesive

4.plan job,suggest straight line from door as if you are marching in ...then row by row then cuts

5.let set ....grout

[diamondtiling]

what do you mean by layers?

1.remove wc and wash hand basin...dont attempt to cut round them.may need plumber

2.ply floor min 6mm depth ??

3.use flexible adhesive

4.plan job,suggest straight line from door as if you are marching in ...then row by row then cuts

5.let set ....grout

Far too thin ply for a floor, 12 mm at the least and only if you have strengthened the floor with extra noggins and screwed everything tight.

What are the tiles you are using?
You need to apply bond to the underside and edges of the ply.

[Daz]

I'm trying to find out what are the things that tilers found hard to master when they started tiling?

Good marketing and selling.

[heavytrevy]

confidence in urself , makes a world of differance in winning the job

Trev

[Colour Republic]

stripping tiles and not taking at least one cut to the hand

[grumpygrouter]

I'm trying to find out what are the things that tilers found hard to master when they started tiling?

One more question i'm tiling my mums bathroom floor but it's floorboards what's the standard in regards to the layers step by step?

Tiling!!

[Sir Ramic]

The client is the hardest thing for a tiler to master. i am sat at home at the moment and was due to be at the house at 8am...a journey that would take 45 minutes in decent weather. I cant get further than 2 miles from my home due to the snow that fell last night. So i thought it was best return home...just after 8am a phone call from irate client asking where i am.
I will wait a while and try again

[Tomtiler]

it was grouting for me no matter what i seemed to do got more on me than the walls in my hair and everything glad to say thats now been masterd

[TF Ed]

2 things stand out for me..

1. good fluent use of the nippers takes a little time to perfect. lots of practicing on various tiles is the only answer imo.

2. setting out awareness!! you can be great at prep work, and skillfull at cutting but that all round awarness of ensuring your setting out an design features work perfectly becoming second nature is another time bearer..

just take your time graig and enjoy the process and what it makes you mate..dont put time limits on things it will only put you under unecessary pressure. respect the trade but try not to make it bigger than what it is and then you'll approach it more thoughtfully & confidentally.

ed..

[SOTON STEVE]

3 way mitre on tile edge trims. when I first started I spent 3 hours trying to complete a 3 way mitre with 12mm edge trims. In the end I phoned the guy that trained me........"cant be done" he says . 3 hours down the pan.
Live and learn!!

[diamondtiling]

He said it cannot be done??
Why not?

There is a vid on here somewhere showing just how it is done.

[Colour Republic]

He said it cannot be done??
Why not?

There is a vid on here somewhere showing just how it is done.

I thought the same but I think he might have left out it's because of the trims shape not the size

[david campbell]

He said it cannot be done??
Why not?

There is a vid on here somewhere showing just how it is done.

Cutting Tile Trim | 3 Way Mitre with Pictures

[SOTON STEVE]

it was a homelux trim. its not the size that was a prob. homelux 12mm trims have a shallow curve.

[diamondtiling]

Cutting Tile Trim | 3 Way Mitre with Pictures

Were your trims similar to these on Devons thread?

[Craig_007]

My first day at training centre found it a little difficult to be honest, we all learn in different ways dont we but with me it take a few times/attempts for even the simpliest of things which can lead to furstration at times.

I'm thinking of doing a log of each day in a new thread then when i'm explained to you lot what ive been doing day 1 day 2 day 3 etc etc i can get some feedback on each element of techniques ive been doing.

So in a nutshell at the moment i'm finding everything hard to do let alone master but cant expect to much from my first day can i.

[richie b]

there is alot to take in at first, dont let that put u off, stick at it the more u tile the easyer it becoms

[Rich]

As above, even the best and most expeienced tilers started somewhere (usually in a bathroom on the hands and knees swearing at a wall). And for the love of god dont use 6mm ply to over lay floor boards!!!! Well that is if you want the tiles to stay down. Take diamonds advice 12mm minimum and if you cant come up that high, look into using a backer board like No more ply or hardie.

[Phil Hobson]

Hi Craig 007, dont give up, everything is still a learning curve for me, I must be a slow learner The man who never made a mistake never made enything. Keep at it, your confidence will grow with experience. Good luck, bye the way your enthusiasm is admirable.

[Colour Republic]

My first day at training centre found it a little difficult to be honest, we all learn in different ways dont we but with me it take a few times/attempts for even the simpliest of things which can lead to furstration at times.

I'm thinking of doing a log of each day in a new thread then when i'm explained to you lot what ive been doing day 1 day 2 day 3 etc etc i can get some feedback on each element of techniques ive been doing.

So in a nutshell at the moment i'm finding everything hard to do let alone master but cant expect to much from my first day can i.

Sounds like an excellent idea

[jamie B]

Hi Craig 007, dont give up, everything is still a learning curve for me, I must be a slow learner The man who never made a mistake never made enything. Keep at it, your confidence will grow with experience. Good luck, bye the way your enthusiasm is admirable.

perfectly put!
Your learning never really ends..everyone gets frustrated at first, just remember to take your time! the best bit of advice I was given day 1 as an apprentice was 'the difference between a good job and a great one is patience!'
it's stood me in good stead many a time!..crack on mate and good luck!

[whitebeam]

Read my signiture, we've all been there

[Colour Republic]

What happened on Day 2 then?

[Craig_007]

Rather then creating a thread with the day to day stuff will just keep this thread alive and woffle on about things ive been doing with some pics.

So day one was measuring and a little feature but only today i got the hang of measuring pretty much properly.


Day 1 pic




Day two was another little feature to get used to cutting etc. In the middle of this comes some theory work in diffrent aspects of tiling. We have covered a little on substrate, adhesives, devices, etc etc etc.

I wont talk to much about that because its just the nessasarys that go with tiling.


Day 2 pic

So day 3 has been about doing a bath splash back of our own accord without any help or any advice on laying out for which i stood around for lets say 30 to 40 mins trying to get some common sense from somewhere to start with my level, batton and pen.

Although i have done it wrong ive had a crack and thats what weer expected to do but what i struggled with is firstly finding out where to bang in my batten, secondly where to start of tiling which i instinctivly started in the middel of the wall by the way, and then trying to get my cuts for the bottom layer is proving slight niggaly as trying to allow for the grout line and the uneven bath causes my marking the tile problems.

I'm enjoying it very much in all honesty i get a real buzz out of which i did all them years ago. I fancy myself as a little bit of a perfectionist so even the laying 2 or 3 tiles im standing back for a little peek to see if all is level. Its very nice to take pride in even the smallest of detail but thats not to say my tiling is pretty naff but in time i hope to come good.

[diamondtiling]

Good progress.

Do you have to take all the tiles back off when you have finished or do the cleaners come in at night?

[richie b]

is it a pts course you are doing, looks like it, if so they are good teachers they will see u alright, its good to double check and sometimes it pays to walk away from it for a min then go back and look again, it looks like u coming along nicely

[Aqua Tiling]

3 way mitre on tile edge trims. when I first started I spent 3 hours trying to complete a 3 way mitre with 12mm edge trims. In the end I phoned the guy that trained me........"cant be done" he says . 3 hours down the pan.
Live and learn!!

Im pretty sure that dave or dan has done a three way cut on trim

[diamondtiling]

Im pretty sure that dave or dan has done a three way cut on trim

I posted devonmarks link earlier that shows one been put together, its pretty straight forward to do.

[Aqua Tiling]

yea i looked at it after i posted, my bad