Tiling shower enclosure

[essex_lee]

Hello, i am going to tile my new double shower, 2 of the walls are plasterboard and have been skimmed, what is the best way to go about this?

waterproof before tiling? and what products do you recommend ?

Thanks, lee

[diamondtiling]

Hi Lee, welcome to the forum.

What tiles are you putting up?

[sibleytiling]

will deffo need to pva the wall b4 tiling just make sure you get the correct adhesive and grout dont go down the route of 'will save a few quid by getting the cheaper grout' buy the most expensive CORRECT stuff that you can

[essex_lee]

hi, thanks.

havent bought them yet, they will be natural stone, proberly these >>>
Travertine Floor Tiles - Cream - 30x45cm - 4 Pack from Homebase.co.uk

Wont be to the ceiling, just to the top of the shower door

Thanks

[diamondtiling]

will deffo need to pva the wall b4 tiling just make sure you get the correct adhesive and grout dont go down the route of 'will save a few quid by getting the cheaper grout' buy the most expensive CORRECT stuff that you can

Dont use PVA

[Alan.P]

The walls would have been better bare, more weight per m2, now your down to about 20 kilo per m2, do not use pva, you'll probably need an sbr primer, what tiles are you using, and what adhesive were you planning on using.

EDIT: must type faster, those tiles will be very close to the limit, if not overweight for the skimmed walls.

[essex_lee]

Dunlop Waterproof Wall Tile Adhesive 7.5kg - Screwfix.com, Where the Trade Buys

i was going to buy this ?



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[Alan.P]

Yep, those tiles are way to heavy for the substrate, even without the plaster, see this link for weights, you'll have to rethink substrates and or tiles... sorry.

And that adhesive is no good, you need a powdered adhesive, I think you need a total rethink.

[diamondtiling]

Hi lee the trade do not use screw fix for adhesive, thats their sales gimmick. Go to Tile giant if you have one nearby, if not find a decent shop that sells white flexible adhesive for your travertine, its in a bag not a tub.
You need a sealer for the tiles, are you going to tank the walls because with your choice of tile you really should.

[essex_lee]

There is a tile giant round the corner to me, am i looking for a particular brand or product ? how much is it ? ive got to do a small amount of floor tiling too, will this adhesive be ok.

should i buy smaller tiles ? lighter tiles ? what will happen to the tiles if they are to heavy, just fall off ?

[diamondtiling]

The walls have to be able to take the tile weight or they will be in danger of falling off. Why not remove the plasterboard now and replace with aqua panels, then you can have the tiles of your choice. A little more prep now will pay dividends in the future with regards to leaks/stability etc.

[mikethetile]

will deffo need to pva the wall b4 tiling just make sure you get the correct adhesive and grout dont go down the route of 'will save a few quid by getting the cheaper grout' buy the most expensive CORRECT stuff that you can

do not pva the walls

read the threads on here about pva versus primer

and welcome to the forum

[Richardk]

I reckon 12mm travertine with adhesive and grout is about 30kgs/sq mtr, 50% over the recommended limit for plaster. As has been advised, remove the plaster and re-board with Aquapanel. Alternatively, choose a 'travertine lookalike' ceramic tile. Adhesive for me would be Mapei Adesilex P9 in white and Mapei Ultracolor Plus grout in Jasmine with matching silicone.

[essex_lee]

ok, thanks guys, im looking at other lighter tiles now.

What primer can people recommend ?

Thanks

[diamondtiling]

Tilegiant will have the correct primer for you Lee. Dont forget your discount mate.

[essex_lee]

Discount ?


just had a thought, my tray is 1100 x 700, could i board onto the the plasterboard ? and screw it into the timber frame and joists ?


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[faithhealer]

You probably won't qualify for discount yet Lee. 'Arms' members get a discount as tile Giant are our sponsors, but keep Posting

[essex_lee]

Could i aquaboard onto the plaster board ? what mm is the board and where is best to buy it ?


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[whitebeam]

Why don't you plasterboard then tank it

[essex_lee]

its been plasterboarded and skimmed and the tiles i want are too heavy, so looking at aquaboard so i can use the tiles.......

[whitebeam]

That'll teach me to jump the gun, as long as the screws and studwork is tough enough

[essex_lee]

lol, can you recommend a place to buy from? cheapest :-)

[whitebeam]

Just had a read, could'nt find what tiles you are intending to fix Tiles and Adhesive Weight Per Square Metre - THE TILE SOURCE

Could you not fix another sheet of plasterboard over the existing board if the tiles and adhesive are under 32kg

[essex_lee]

i was going to use these tiles

Travertine Floor Tiles - Cream - 30x45cm - 4 Pack from Homebase.co.uk

[whitebeam]

If there 10mm thick you should be ok for plasterboard, any thicker then aqua board as suggested

[essex_lee]

so they will be ok on a flat surface of 1100 x 1800 ?
just skimmed plaster board ?

[essex_lee]

think im going to aquaboard the large surface :-)

[whitebeam]

Not skimmed not with them tiles, it dos'nt matter the size of the tile it's the thickness and what it's made of that determine the weight issue.

Check to see if the tiles are 10mm then a sheet of bare plasterboard will suffice, if the tiles are over that thickness then you will have to go the aqua board route.

[essex_lee]

cheers mate

[Alan.P]

the link states 12mm so as has been said, rethink the tile or rethink the prep work, safety is paramount, you don't want them big fella's falling off.