Help!: Overlapping a vertical tile with horizontal tile

[Minnie]

Due to another little mistake, I've realised the tiles I'm carrying through from the main wall to the sink are slightly taller. As it would involve a very small cut which I'm unable to do, is it acceptable to sink the vertical tile behind the horizontal and hide my little mistake? (I think I should have bottom of tiles on main wall to matching one on sink, but I decided to match a grout line instead)

and yet another question....

My middle wall behind sink is 32cm and the tile I'm using is 25cm. Do I need to do two little offcuts either side of the 25cm or can I do a 7cm section into the corner?

If the former, then does that mean I have to do the same with the horizontal tiles on the ledge and the vertical tile above the sink so I have matching grout lines?

Questions, questions

[marke]

hi minnie, bit confusing but here goes i would go with the small cut to the corner now personally , just a problem setting out really its hard to tell but dont i would offset the horizontal tiles on the ledge you will never get the grout lines to match coz of the diagonal cut IMO. is it unconcievable to start agiain ?? only a few tiles up !
oh yeah whats all them old vhs videos for , good luck

[Minnie]

hi minnie, bit confusing but here goes i would go with the small cut to the corner now personally , just a problem setting out really its hard to tell but dont i would offset the horizontal tiles on the ledge you will never get the grout lines to match coz of the diagonal cut IMO. is it unconcievable to start agiain ?? only a few tiles up !
oh yeah whats all them old vhs videos for , good luck

Nothing over the sink is stuck to the wall yet.

So, you're saying with the middle wall to cut into the corner rather than a strip each side of a full tile? If so, I'm happier with that considering the grief I'm having with the tile cutter.

Those videos are my battens. Go on, I know you're impressed with my creativity

[marke]

yeah i think you have to put the cut to the corner now minnie , if your carrying on up the wall you cant have 2 little cuts running right up do you not have an angle grinder to cut that small strip off ya main tile so it works in nice and flush ? or cant you take them few tiles to tile shop they can whip off that 5mm or so on a wet saw in minutes for you , Battons / books / videos ha ha , love it

[Minnie]

yeah i think you have to put the cut to the corner now minnie , if your carrying on up the wall you cant have 2 little cuts running right up do you not have an angle grinder to cut that small strip off ya main tile so it works in nice and flush ? or cant you take them few tiles to tile shop they can whip off that 5mm or so on a wet saw in minutes for you , Battons / books / videos ha ha , love it

Good, I don't like little cuts.

As for a powered cutter, no, I'm scared of them.

Well the thing is, I right along the wall, there's a dip that I had filled in so the shelf was level. If I hack that out again, I could drop the tile so the bottom of it is level with the wall ones, and once the sealant goes on, it would be disguised anyway wouldn't it? Or do I have to have the vertical tile above the horizontal ones?

I'm running out of batten now (or rather, I don't want to use decent books/videos!).

I've realised I am going to have to have a batten at some stage as I've no horizontal surface to hold up the tiles at the back of the bath. How do I know if I've got hidden pipes?

Hmm, problems, problems

[marke]

dont see any reason why you cant have the vertical behind the horizontal as long as you silicone it well as for ya battens just see if you can find the stud work the wall is hanging on by tapping along the wall (dull thud where the timber runs vertical) either screw into that or just use screws that are only going to enter the wall by 10/12mm, you dont want to put a lot of weight on these put should hold one row till it dries thats all ya need to carry on then. seems like you got time anyway
No problems only challenges

[Minnie]

dont see any reason why you cant have the vertical behind the horizontal as long as you silicone it well as for ya battens just see if you can find the stud work the wall is hanging on by tapping along the wall (dull thud where the timber runs vertical) either screw into that or just use screws that are only going to enter the wall by 10/12mm, you dont want to put a lot of weight on these put should hold one row till it dries thats all ya need to carry on then. seems like you got time anyway
No problems only challenges

It's a concrete wall under the plaster. You don't have stud work there do you? (I'm not a builder obviously).

Maybe someone should invent self-adhesive battens?

I don't have lots of time. I have to get this finished before Christmas, well before Christmas as I've cards to write, presents to wrap, Christmas trees to put up, a computer to buy. What's more, my modem's dying so I need to get this done before my modem dies completely.

[marke]

no ya wont have stud work minnie or any pipes either unless there are some obvious chase lines up the walls (where they have been dug out to place pipes in the wall) , so should not be an issue, self adhesive batons eh would get me some of them haha, you can get stands for ya batons too. i not got a day off till christmas eve now so erm christmas may be late this year
Have ya noticed how many ways we have spelled baton in this thread ? cant decide how to spell it lol

[Aqua Tiling]

are they videos holding the tile up or just in front of it

[Minnie]

no ya wont have stud work minnie or any pipes either unless there are some obvious chase lines up the walls (where they have been dug out to place pipes in the wall) , so should not be an issue, self adhesive batons eh would get me some of them haha, you can get stands for ya batons too. i not got a day off till christmas eve now so erm christmas may be late this year
Have ya noticed how many ways we have spelled baton in this thread ? cant decide how to spell it lol

If I bang a pipe and flood the place... what's your address?

Self-adhesive battens. Seems someone's already thought of them.

Self adhesive baton???

As for the spelling, I'm a secretary and I therefore am right, and you are wrong



















I think

[Minnie]

are they videos holding the tile up or just in front of it

They're my battens

[marke]

It's a concrete wall under the plaster. You don't have stud work there do you? (I'm not a builder obviously).

Maybe someone should invent self-adhesive battens?

I don't have lots of time. I have to get this finished before Christmas, well before Christmas as I've cards to write, presents to wrap, Christmas trees to put up, a computer to buy. What's more, my modem's dying so I need to get this done before my modem dies completely.

Ahem, may i draw your attention to the above miss money penny

[Minnie]

Ahem, may i draw your attention to the above miss money penny

Who, me?

Why are you calling me Miss Moneypenny? I'm unemployed.

[Aqua Tiling]

are you holding up tiles with videos??????????????

[marke]

money penny - secretary - spelling etc haha and ya cant have my address for burst pipes you need a plumber for that

[Minnie]

are you holding up tiles with videos??????????????

May I refer you to posts 2, 3 and 11

[Minnie]

money penny - secretary - spelling etc haha and ya cant have my address for burst pipes you need a plumber for that

I wasn't needing your address for your plumbing skills. I was wanting it in case I need to come to throttle you if I flood the place

[Minnie]

are you holding up tiles with videos??????????????

and books, don't forget the books

[Aqua Tiling]

sos didnt read every post. if the adhesive is put on right they need anything to hold them up

[Minnie]

sos didnt read every post. if the adhesive is put on right they need anything to hold them up

So I'm alright then?

Adhesive put on right? Am I missing something here?

*panics I've put adhesive on incorrectly*

[Prem Tiler]

I wont comment on the videos and books.

But I think looking at your pics tiling in to the corners is the last of your worries. your going to have the mother of all slivers at the window reveal.

I really think you will save your self money by taking them off and finding out more about setting out before you start. you have a whole load of trouble ahead of you if you carry on the way your going.

[kilty55]

i agree with prem,minnie i commend you for all your questions and wanting to know and how to do it,but i also think you should remove the tiles and re start you will get a better end result your happy with. just my opinon tho

[Minnie]

I wont comment on the videos and books.

But I think looking at your pics tiling in to the corners is the last of your worries. your going to have the mother of all slivers at the window reveal.

I really think you will save your self money by taking them off and finding out more about setting out before you start. you have a whole load of trouble ahead of you if you carry on the way your going.

Why am I going to have the slivers at the window reveal? I'm not tiling the window reveals.

I don't have time to start again. I need to finish by Christmas. I'm not expecting to do a professional looking job, just neatening up and cleaning up b/f's bathroom. Have you seen any "before" pictures? Just having a different colour (albeit not one I'd have chosen) makes a difference compared to the bogey green ones that were there.

[Minnie]

i agree with prem,minnie i commend you for all your questions and wanting to know and how to do it,but i also think you should remove the tiles and re start you will get a better end result your happy with. just my opinon tho

I can't, I'll end up having a nervous breakdown

[kilty55]

hehe nervous breakdown i like it,, it is an awkward little area especially for someone eho has never tiled so good on ya minnie just the setting out might have made it a bit easier for you thats all,,good luck though pal

[Prem Tiler]

Here is an exsample of whats gonna happen.

The red tiles are the ones you haven't fixed yet.

[Minnie]

hehe nervous breakdown i like it,, it is an awkward little area especially for someone eho has never tiled so good on ya minnie just the setting out might have made it a bit easier for you thats all,,good luck though pal

I spent weeks trying to figure out how I was going to do it and have been up 'til 3 or 4.00am every night trying to figure it out.

Initially I was going to line the tiles up with the end of the window, but it was just causing me no end of bother as that left hand bit of wall above the sink was something like 30cm. I decided to continue the main wall over the sink instead. I also had to hack out some wall that was at an angle from the sink area. Then I had to decide where to start to line up grout lines, level with the sink, level with the shelf above the sink etc.

Here's how it was. See that angled little cut out by the sink. Well I got rid of that by hacking the wall out so I could put a full tile there. Obviously it meant the tiles go past the window which is why I decided to treat the main wall and wall above sink as one wall. I also chopped off a bit of the corner of the shelf as it was hard to actually tell where the edge was as it was just a blob of bumpy wall underneath.

[Prem Tiler]

[Minnie]

Here is an exsample of whats gonna happen.

The red tiles are the ones you haven't fixed yet.

Oh right, I thought you meant the sides of the windows.

Yeah, I know, it'll probably look crap but even if it is wonky and doesn't meet the sill, will it look as crap as this?




and anyhow, you know what they say about Persian carpets and the Perisan flaw, the window sill will be my Persian flaw.





















So will the walls, sink area....

[Minnie]

As laid by Lambeth Council workers many years ago

Now, you were saying?