Full tile at ceiling

[onedrip]

Hi all, could anyone please advise if it is OK to have a full tile next to the ceiling. I have 33x25cm tiles with a 7.5cm border. If I have a full tile 2mm above the bath it works out there is a gap of about 3mm between the last tile and ceiling, although I realize that this will vary with the ceiling level. The reason for my question is that, setting out posts I have read, seem to say to go for the middle of the wall (vertically) and work from there. I am about to start tiling and would appreciate any advice. Many thanks.

[enduro]

I always set out from the cenre of the wall so you get even cuts into the corners. So find the centre of the wall then place a tile next to the line then measure with a tile across the wall until you get to the corner..if you find you are going to cut a small piece against the corner then go back to your centre line and place the line is in the centre of the tile and this will give you a better cut into the corners, you can use a full tile up to the ceiling but makes sure it fits the whole length of the wall, and once finished use caulk or silicone against the edge of the tile and the ceiling.

[Alan.P]

Ditto that, as long as the ceiling is level, which they seldom are, if you've checked this, and ir is fine for the whole length then go for it

[pete f]

one drip you will be better setting out so that the ceiling tile is threequarters or half a tile most ceilings run out if you set out that the last tile is full you have no margin to work with to get the right cuts in if the ceiling is out

[whitebeam]

As above

[frogeye]

will this help? Some good advice here from Dave

http://www.tilersforums.co.uk/tiling...oom-walls.html

frogeye

[Bartlett]

Just wondering if your bath is completely level? It's quite possible that it's not, in which case you need a cut tile (not a full tile) above the bath, which in turn will help you to solve the problem of the full tile at ceiling height.

[timeless john]

What size spacer peg are you using?
If you can get a full tile off the bath and it gives you a full tile to the ceiling - then you've got the almost perfect room!
As others you must check to see how level the bath and ceiling are before you start and draw you datum line level around the room to check all the other horizontal positions that are required ie shower tray, window cill, floor cut... before you make your final decision.
And post pictures!!!!

[onedrip]

Thanks for all the replies and advice. I think I may raise the tiles about 80mm. I can't raise them anymore because of the border and a window cill. I will then end up with a gap of 80mm again, between the top of the border and the window cill. Could I ask you guys in the know if this sounds feasible, or is this too small a tile on top of the bath and also between the border and window cill.

[marke]

i would say your askin for a bit of mither mate imo , from what you described sounds more sensible to put half tile off the bath (allow for not being level) that will leave you with half tile at the ceiling which allows you to fit a nice cut even if ceiling is not level (cant imagine its perfect). if you go with full tile to top and your ceiling lifts in to a corner by 5-10mm you will wish you hadn't mate !

[doug boardley]

as marke for me

[marke]

if you raise it up 80mm i presume then your gonna have a cut of 80mm to the bath if i got that right ! thats to small in my opinion i go at least half tile off the bath . how about 3/4 off the bath how does that work out ? if your gonna have a cut less than half a tile , have it at the cdeiling not the bath

[onedrip]

Hello again. I will try and post some pix.

[Phil Hobson]

I would sugest that you start by making a staff,/pinchrod, or gauging stick, depending on which area you are from. Everyone has their own name for them,basically, you take a piece of wood approx 1.5m long 5mm thick 30mm wide (just a guide) place your tiles on the staff side by side,and place spacer in between each tile. With a pencil mark each tile joint. If your tiles are oblong, mark short side on one side of staff, and long side on the reverse. Whith this you can predetermine exactly where each cut will come. Once you are happy with the set out, mark a level line all around the room and off you go. Hope this makes sense, and is of help.

[onedrip]

This is my first go at photos, hope it works. I hope this shows my problems and thanks again for any advice.http://www.kodakgallery.co.uk/ShareLanding.action?c=28e42d0ap.22r26z1kx&x=0&y=ej zdae&localeid=en_GB

[Alan.P]

This is my first go at photos, hope it works. I hope this shows my problems and thanks again for any advice.http://www.kodakgallery.co.uk/ShareLanding.action?c=28e42d0ap.22r26z1kx&x=0&y=ej zdae&localeid=en_GB

Hard to really tell, but is that a gap at the top of tile meets ceiling ? if so, how big, and the problem then is that if the ceiling is out of whack your going to end up with all sorts of problems. Again, hard to tell from the pictures, but from a setting out point of view I would probably drop down by about a third of a tile, the bottom of the beam above the window would be top of tile, this would give a nice continuation line around, a nice cut around the bath, cuts to the ceiling and floor to compensate for any differences in levels.

Again, it is hard to tell from pictures

EDIT: oops my bad, didn't look properly at tile to floor, rethink time.

[onedrip]

Hello again, how about if i left the tile layout as it is and used a small coving around the top to hide the gap. Does this sound feasible ?.

[Bartlett]

Hi, I would definitely avoid the coving idea.
I advise that you make the tile above your bath a cut tile, not a whole one. As posted previously this will allow for the bath not being 100% level and will solve the problem with the gap at ceiling height. But plan around the rest of the room, ie, window, toilet, sink etc etc to ensure that you do not need to cut any small slivers of tile in any place, ie, plan ahead.
Read back over the replies already given; there is some good advice here! And ask any questions you like!

[tileexperts]

my own rule, is i would never have a full tile off a bath or to the ceiling or in a corner, because as most of you say. you do not know if it is plumb, i always try to get the biggest cut to the bath and the ceiling.
but most people have their own way of doing things.