Fireplace advice

[poynton phil]

Been asked to do a fireplace with porcelain tiles, these tiles will go right back under the chimney area, and will have a working fire basket on it. Just wondering if this was ok, and if so would i be alright using keraquick and ultracolour plus grout. Any advice will be appreciated.

[chris.tiling]

I think so but await to be corrected!

[Matt]

That Adhesive and Grout should be fine. I would be worried about using a glazed product though (Assuming it is a glazed porcelain you are talking about)

[poynton phil]

Its a 600x300 porcelain tile, from tile giant, dont know it name at the mo, but its a bronzey colour

[doug boardley]

bearing in mind they'll have been fired at about 1200 dgs centigrade, I think they should be ok

[Stan001]

Be very careful! … The dimensions of your hearth are covered by law under Part J of the building regs. This basically tells you the dimensions of your hearth from your appliance to any combustible materials (ie skirting boards and carpet.) Plus the definition of the edges. A HETAS registered engineer could turn up and make you / the owner rip your hearth out if its not to spec. Its explained really clearly in Part J which you can get from here …. http://www.planningportal.gov.uk/upl...F_ADJ_2002.pdf


speak to a local solid fuel / stoves retailer ref if you need to use fire cement, you'd have to explain to them your appliance / fire dogs / fire basket etc. what is the material under the hearth? (wood / concrete ?) you defo need to know - read Part J thoroughly before taking the job. IMHO if its wood under then I'd fit stone slab to be safe (I can post a picture to explain if required)

[Oli]

bearing in mind they'll have been fired at about 1200 dgs centigrade, I think they should be ok

You never fail to make me chuckle doug

[Matt]

bearing in mind they'll have been fired at about 1200 dgs centigrade, I think they should be ok

I have had customers that have had glazed porcelain crack when a hot coal has dropped on them. Just speaking from experience. Which I am sure you have much more of than me

[poynton phil]

[quote=Stan001;235658]Be very careful! … The dimensions of your hearth are covered by law under Part J of the building regs. This basically tells you the dimensions of your hearth from your appliance to any combustible materials (ie skirting boards and carpet.) Plus the definition of the edges. A HETAS registered engineer could turn up and make you / the owner rip your hearth out if its not to spec. Its explained really clearly in Part J which you can get from here …. http://www.planningportal.gov.uk/upl...F_ADJ_2002.pdf

Just had a quick look through this stan, and it seems to be about gas appliances, not real fires,but i will check with a local shop that supplies real fires and wood burners ect.

[Stan001]

phil - this (Part J) covers SOLID fuel - wood and coal, stoves and open fires!

[Stan001]

See Pages 29~35 of the Part J document.
You will see ref the cross section why cut stone (depending upon what you are building on) could be preferable to build-up then tile. (if you go stone you can get 2 x rectangles cut, one for inside the breast, one for immediately in front, for approx £200, calc a gap of 10mm between stone and wall for cement infill – its will look awesome … if you go tile then slate IMHO looks good, and is practical ref dirt etc. most other tiles look good for about 5minutes even with a stove, a basket is really dirty )