another lesson learnt

[stevee]

ello, started a bathroom today,strip out approx 13 sq mtrs of ceramics ,and retile,

i boiled in there today,i kid u not, 2 layers of tiles

anyway ,next time i do an old house,ill do the strip out on day rate

one good thing ,if the walls wasnt too bad,i was gonna patch it up,but theyre dire,so mateys gotta get a spread to hopefully leave me a nice flat surface

[beanz]

Don't count on it, if you don't know who's plastering it. I've only just got into this game, and am already thinking about insisting on getting the plasterer (if any's needed) myself, as some of the plasterer's/builders out there are shocking!

[Dave]

Is that wood on the window head...looks like a gap/crack......make sure it will support the tiles weight.....

2 layers of tiles eh!! that will make the room look huge now they are off..

[dagger]

could you not just tile over them?

[stevee]

hiya boys ,it would be good if i could find a good plasterer to use regular

dave, there was 2 layers under the head too ,with big patchs where the addy hadnt made contact with the tile,bloody nightmare really in this heat

dagger, blimey,could have saved meself some grief there;]

[doug boardley]

in at the deep end there stevee good luck mate

[dagger]

do you not fancy having a go at spreading yourself, i do all my own cos i know what i want, and after practising alot i can now do it to a standard of any fully qualified plasterer.

the thing to bear in mind is you do not need a perfect polished finish if you are tiling the lot!!

so pin holes and scrapes are no problem to deal with in adhesive!

i was plastering today, heres a piccy! its like watching paint dry!!!!

[Dan]

Not bad that dagger.

[lcjohno]

i've thought about learning to do my own plastering. Is it hard to learn? I only want to know to prep walls, the trouble with plasterers is they just get a smooth finish but not flat or level finish. It can cause problems!

[dagger]

like tiling its all in the preparation, plasterboard walls where possible!!
if you have walls like our current photos you will need bonding first to flatten/level and then finish coat!

its all in the practice, and you have to start somewhere!

[stevee]

dagger , it is somrthing id like to do evenyually mate, your finish looks good enough to paint, might have done yourself out of a job there bud

ill have to get clued up soon ,be good to watch someone doing it,cheers steve

[dagger]

dagger , it is somrthing id like to do evenyually mate, your finish looks good enough to paint, might have done yourself out of a job there bud

ill have to get clued up soon ,be good to watch someone doing it,cheers steve

with a little practice you can go from this:



notice the side wall old adhesive and such and then the back wall, thats 1 coat of bonding to cover the rough stuff!

and then the finished job, i have shown the same corner of the room,
it has had a finish coat apllied after squaring up in bonding!:

[whitebeam]

To get finishing plaster as flat as possible you can use a skimming float, made from yellow pine which dos'nt bow EMIR - Handtools - No 812 315mm Skimmer Float takes a bit of practice though

[doug boardley]

To get finishing plaster as flat as possible you can use a skimming float, made from yellow pine which dos'nt bow EMIR - Handtools - No 812 315mm Skimmer Float takes a bit of practice though

I'll stick with me stainless marshalltown Mark

[doug boardley]

with a little practice you can go from this:



notice the side wall old adhesive and such and then the back wall, thats 1 coat of bonding to cover the rough stuff!

and then the finished job, i have shown the same corner of the room,
it has had a finish coat apllied after squaring up in bonding!:

only draw back with bonding and skim is the curing time and the weight bearing limits

[dagger]

only draw back with bonding and skim is the curing time and the weight bearing limits

as with everything in life, horses for courses.
but as you mention weight limits and i agree today they are a consideration.
but thats all they are a consideration!

[doug boardley]

as with everything in life, horses for courses.
but as you mention weight limits and i agree today they are a consideration.
but thats all they are a consideration!

served my time as a plasterer, in my younger days I wanted to plaster the world ( but not now)

[faithhealer]

I know a few good plasterers but I usually need them at short notice so I;m going to get myself up to NETT when I have time!
You'll learn to pass the buck on stripping walls Steve, and nice work Dagger

[stevee]

definatly gonna learn it sometime , better me gettin paid for it, so lads ,what will i need on this wall, and how long before i can tile ,cheers

its a sand cement on concrete blocks now,which needs coming off on one wall

[doug boardley]

can you scrape all the skim off ? sand and cement (if in sound condition) is a good substrate to tile onto

[EH TILING]

practice on plasterboard first as it is an ideal surface to plaster onto no preparation is need apart from some skrim tape over the joints.

get a first even coat on and leave until it starts so take to the background then flatten it off(take the worst of the lines out of it) then add another coat just a thin coat wait for that to take then smooth that off. the lines are easier to get rid the more it goes off. trowel it until you are happy enough. job done!

it is literally as easy as that on plasterboard and as someone mentioned earlier you dont need a great finish as its going to be tiled over.

[stevee]

cheers mate , doug, the sand /cement is falling off, not hard to get back to the blocks on one wall ,on the other its quite sound ,but not smooth ,aka photo

[stevee]

hey, i reckon i might advertise for chippy work too

made myself a quality P-shape bath cover,PM me with your orders boys

[dagger]

served my time as a plasterer, in my younger days I wanted to plaster the world ( but not now)

finished plastering today, here is another fantastic peice of paint drying!



i know what you mean, plastering is a pain! but it does have its uses!
this job is a wetroom so it was cheaper to fix studding, plasterboard, plaster and then tank as the tiles are b&q specials! so no problem with weight.

back to the original post,
can you not just dot and dab plasterboard everywhere and tile onto that (no plastering!) if you are tiling floor to ceiling it will give you a great surface and 40kg psm!

just a thought!

p.s can i have a bath cover!!!!

[stevee]

a plasterer is on the case now mate , yours looks really good,steve