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    got customer wants to tile straight on top of her amtico floor is this possable or does it need ripping up its in kitchen going to look at it tuesday any advise would be great thanks rossy...

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    Default Re: amtico floor

    Hi rossy..The Amtico I know is just vinyl tiles glued to the floor with heat welded 'grout' lines. It's unlikely the ply underneath the floor will be a min of 12mm if there is any at all and you have no way of telling how good the substrate is under the Amtico, plywood, etc.. As you have to be confident your work is not going to fail, you would be wise to rip it up, check/fix the flooring/substrate as necesary, then tile away...

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    As above, must come up


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    I wouldn't think tile addy would stick well enough to Amtico anyway. And there is the differential expansion/contraction characteristics which could split the addy away from the Amtico as well. It's got to come up IMO I'm afraid

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    Thinking about it though Amtico also do a range of vinyl tiles that look like real tiles - they are grouted and everything - look really good. IO think you might be able to stick these to the Amtico - not sure though. You could ask Amtico direct...

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    Thinking about it though Amtico also do a range of vinyl tiles that look like real tiles - they are grouted and everything - look really good. IO think you might be able to stick these to the Amtico - not sure though. You could ask Amtico direct...
    Vinyl grout joints..not actual grout..

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    got customer wants to tile straight on top of her amtico floor is this possable or does it need ripping up its in kitchen going to look at it tuesday any advise would be great thanks rossy...

    Lift it up mate....the use of a heat gun will speed things up and help remove any glue left behind ..

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    Vinyl grout joints..not actual grout..
    Not absolutely sure but think so. I saw it when I was up at their training centre in Solihull a couple of months ago. It looked really impressive. I guess it might have been a special sort of grout but as I say I not certain. I will find out if you interested though.

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    Not absolutely sure but think so. I saw it when I was up at their training centre in Solihull a couple of months ago. It looked really impressive. I guess it might have been a special sort of grout but as I say I not certain. I will find out if you interested though.

    I have mate who specialises in kardean and he uses the vinyl grout strips...they come in a few colours as well..

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    Default Re: amtico floor

    Amtico isnt cheap probs cost more than the tiles

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    Quote Originally Posted by strumerman View Post
    Amtico isnt cheap probs cost more than the tiles

    Very True - unless they bloomin expensive tiles

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    rip out too from my view

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    I've never been a fan of Amtico. Very expensive and if you get water damage underneath they can peal or "lift".

    I'd have them up! And get back to the basic substrate.

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    Default Re: amtico floor

    I would deffo have lifted the floor or sheated over if this was to much hassle.

    Just a few points for anyone reading this.

    1. plywood under amtico etc would very rarely be as thick as 12mm, more likely to be a max of 6mm as fitters normaly cut the ply with there stantley knife for speed. (I would either lift and sheet with a thick ply or ply over the floor at least.

    2. As Dave mentioned it is vinyl strips that are used with this type of vinyl. Heat welding is used for sheet vinyl and lino for joins.

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    yeah pull it up then they have to let you tile it!!!

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