Removing toilet sink

[shaney2000000]

hi could anyone tell me how easy it is to remove toilet and sink and how its done......i want to remove them tile the wall then floor then put them back....any recomendations???

[doug boardley]

are isolator valves fitted?

[shaney2000000]

im not sure ....if there are isolators

[shaney2000000]

the house is unoccupied i could turn the water off at the main one if not...how easy would it then be to remove put back?

[doug boardley]

ok mate, they're chrome fittings that are attatched to copper pipes with a valve to take a flat head screwdriver. If your pot ware has these it's a straightforward case of turning the valve 90 degrees to the flow, loosening the top nut and you should be ok. Make sure your waste pipes, overflows etc are also disconnected at this time.

[shaney2000000]

its an old house if it hasnt what are the options ...once water is off will toilet sink just disconnect /unbolt/unscrew the floor isnt tiled if i remove it will build up floor level will this be a prob wen i come to put toilet back...cheerz

[brian c]

taking them out is the easy bit,,its putting them back that causes problems as the tile will now be floored and the wastes will need altered on the sink and wc...and the water pipes will need altered for the same reason.Flexi pipes are a wonderfull thing and you get them with isolators fitted into them.

[batiling]

Easy to do,as been quoted make sure all waste pipes are disconnected and its best if isolators are fitted.A couple of tips are carry fibre washers for connections as they can leak quite easy and dont overtighten the screws when replacing.I know it sounds stupid but the amount of stories i hear of hairline cracks appearing after work has finished,This can be expensive!!!!!

[shaney2000000]

do i put fibre washers on connections between pipes even if not there previously?

[shaney2000000]

are the taps just unbolted and water to tolilet pipe jst bolted unbolted?

[tile55]

you dont need to touch the taps, just the pipe connections from the taps to the water feed.
A note of caution, when turning off the stopcock,this will only turn off the cold feed, you will need to find another cut off valve for the hot water.

[shaney2000000]

cheerzz everyone for your help ...shuda asked this first if iv not done if before do you think its woth it....or jst cut rnd them

[brian c]

Defo take them out...just take your time when putting them back and if you get stuck,then come on here and get help.

[doug boardley]

deffo take them out shane, in the future the customer may want to change toilet/basin but not the tiles, and if you cut round them, the chance of a pedestal and toilet having the same,original, footprint are virtually nil

[rhyd4]

you dont need to touch the taps, just the pipe connections from the taps to the water feed.
A note of caution, when turning off the stopcock,this will only turn off the cold feed, you will need to find another cut off valve for the hot water.

unless its combi fed then the stop cock will shut off both, only tank few will you need to find the tap around the tank to shut off the hot

[Colour Republic]

you dont need to touch the taps, just the pipe connections from the taps to the water feed.
A note of caution, when turning off the stopcock,this will only turn off the cold feed, you will need to find another cut off valve for the hot water.

This is true in some cases , If the property has a traditional hot water tank which is gravity fed, then yes you will have to isolate the hot at the tank, but if the property has a combi boiler then the system is in suspension after the mains cold is turned off and the hot will stop at the same time.

But be careful, if you open another tap in the property whilst you have an open pipe then the water left in the pipes will flow out from the lowest point, sometimes this can be helpful i.e. you disconnect the sink and open the bath taps, if the bath taps are lower than the disconnected sink tails then water will flow into the bath, if the bath taps are higher than the water will flow over the floor! Either way it shouldn't be much but sometimes enough to cause a little damage

If the pipes are not fitted with isolator valves then fit some when you re-install the suite, this will help you the difference in height after you have tiled the floor and save someone the headache next time it's done

[stargazerlx90]

Hope you don't mind my sixpence.

But if this is an old property theirs a chance it won't have any "Ballafix" (Isolation Valves) fitted, also if it's an open vented conventional system, the cold as well as the hot should be tank fed, in this case you will normally find a pair of "Gate Valves" in the airing cupboard (if they work) if not turn off the mains and drain down the main tank, fit new Ballafix and refill, also the waste along with the hot and cold supplies will not normally line up after tiling (Thank Christ for flex's) make good use of them.

Jeff.