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Discuss taper or not? in the Tiling Forum at TilersForums; got a ensuite bathroom on next thurs three walls staight forward one wall has the roof sloping down half way down the wall do i just tile up to it ...
          
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    Default taper or not?

    got a ensuite bathroom on next thurs three walls staight forward one wall has the roof sloping down half way down the wall do i just tile up to it or do i need to cut the last tile to angle of roof hope this makes sense!

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    Default Re: taper or not?

    If I've understood you, just tile up to it to 2mm ish and run a bead of silicone along the edge to flex with any movement.

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    cheers thats what i thought was not sure if there another method!

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    Default Re: taper or not?

    if i understand you, you need to taper the cuts on your last row of tiles, take measurements from the corners of each tile to the ceiling, mark down on tile, and score and cut, or if it is stone a angle grinder is perfect for this situation.
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    Default Re: taper or not?

    OK, I'm confused, do you mean the wall meeting ceiling at point 1 or 2 in my drawing, apologies for the crudeness
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    Default Re: taper or not?

    if the angle is 45% as shown you could if spaced right put a border of full tile down ceiling line and cut in each row into it

    if its not 45% degrees then just tile up and cut each tile as others have advised
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    Default Re: taper or not?

    Now I read it as going up to point 2 on my drawing, meeting the ceiling that comes down at an angle ?????

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alan.P View Post
    OK, I'm confused, do you mean the wall meeting ceiling at point 1 or 2 in my drawing, apologies for the crudeness
    point 2

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    Default Re: taper or not?

    A nice bead of silicone would be choice of finish in that case.

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    if I'm reading it right, I put a back bevel on tiles with my wet saw, so the face of the tile is longer than the back of the tile. Or do you mean the wall/ceiling measuremment is longer at one end than the other?

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    Default Re: taper or not?

    if the join between the wall and the coomb is running off sometimes it looks better to run the tiles at the same size and use a square edge tile trim to finish...

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    Default Re: taper or not?

    It depends on how true the line at wall to ceiling point is......some are way out of line...

    I tend to finish with a trim to suit the tile...then the customer has a neat straight edge to cut to when painting..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave View Post
    It depends on how true the line at wall to ceiling point is......some are way out of line...

    I tend to finish with a trim to suit the tile...then the customer has a neat straight edge to cut to when painting..
    this is how i do it, if the meeting of wall and ceiling is not level and true.

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    Quote Originally Posted by doug boardley View Post
    if I'm reading it right, I put a back bevel on tiles with my wet saw, so the face of the tile is longer than the back of the tile. Or do you mean the wall/ceiling measuremment is longer at one end than the other?
    cheers think i will have a go at that be nice finish if done right all else fails then trim it is thanks guys !

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    The way I would do it for a ceiling slope that has an angle is :
    Place a straight wood batten flat, on the row of tiles below the top row, vertical, slide up to ceiling height. Make a mark on batten where it crosses the tile, transfer to tile you front of tile want to cut, make mark and add extra for grout line. Repeat other side.
    You now have depth of cut for front of tile.
    On the back reduce the height of the marks by the thickness of a tile.
    Draw a line from each mark to other on front and back.
    Use angle grinder to cut at an angle following the lines....
    hey presto should fit perfectly.
    If in doubt cut a little to big, then offer up.... Check and re trim until best fit is acheived
    Hope this makes sense
    This ceiling had an unusual slope from side to side and upwards.....

    Notice, tiles tight up to ceiling
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    Default Re: taper or not?

    its not just the sloped celin to worry about here, it will effect the straight walls meeting it and will cause the grout lines to be lower or higher.
    you need to open and close a few grout lines to get them to meet.

    with this one i made sure i could get good cuts everywhere, window and bath etc, and started full tile off the 2 sloping walls and went from there.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Leatherface View Post
    The way I would do it for a ceiling slope that has an angle is :
    Place a straight wood batten flat, on the row of tiles below the top row, vertical, slide up to ceiling height. Make a mark on batten where it crosses the tile, transfer to tile you front of tile want to cut, make mark and add extra for grout line. Repeat other side.
    You now have depth of cut for front of tile.
    On the back reduce the height of the marks by the thickness of a tile.
    Draw a line from each mark to other on front and back.
    Use angle grinder to cut at an angle following the lines....
    hey presto should fit perfectly.
    If in doubt cut a little to big, then offer up.... Check and re trim until best fit is acheived
    Hope this makes sense
    This ceiling had an unusual slope from side to side and upwards.....

    Notice, tiles tight up to ceiling
    nice looking job there if i get it close to that i will be happy cheers!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leatherface View Post
    The way I would do it for a ceiling slope that has an angle is :
    Place a straight wood batten flat, on the row of tiles below the top row, vertical, slide up to ceiling height. Make a mark on batten where it crosses the tile, transfer to tile you front of tile want to cut, make mark and add extra for grout line. Repeat other side.
    You now have depth of cut for front of tile.
    On the back reduce the height of the marks by the thickness of a tile.
    Draw a line from each mark to other on front and back.
    Use angle grinder to cut at an angle following the lines....
    hey presto should fit perfectly.
    If in doubt cut a little to big, then offer up.... Check and re trim until best fit is acheived
    Hope this makes sense
    This ceiling had an unusual slope from side to side and upwards.....

    Notice, tiles tight up to ceiling
    or you could just use an angle finder!!!

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    I'm not sure if these really help?????
    But the ceiling slope meant that the tiles ran out by over 3mm per row, so I opened the grout lines for the borders but allowed the main tiles to just run out.

    Job looked good even though these pics are rubbish .

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    you did very well to get over that sloope Capt.

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    or was this the type of sloped ceiling you meant?

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