Wall tiling advice

[Steviep]

Hi everyone,

I am looking for a bit of advice with my kitchen tiling project.
I have replaced my kitchen with new units and i was planning on tiling over the existing tiles, (these tiles have been gloss painted), around the new units.

However there are parts of the walls where there are no tiles due to the wall cabinets being moved position. I was planning to fill this area with either plywood or plasterboard of the same thickness (5mm). I was then going to tile over this.

What i'm looking to find out is, is this going to be possible and is there anything important to know before going ahead.
Also what would be the best adhesive to use for tiling on both plywood/plasterboard, and on top of tiles.

Any advice would be appreciated,
Thanks
Stephen.

[Leatherface]

Hi mate. For your own good and in the interests of doing a good job, remove the old tiles, patch / plaster to make good and start again Surely will not cost that much extra to do it properly

[beanz]

All your tiles will be hanging on is the gloss paint!

Fail probability aside, why spend all that money on new units, and then just bodge the tiling? I doubt you'll be able to get a really nice finish, and all you'll see forever more are the faults. That'd bug the hell outa me...

[div]

what about your sockets mate !!!!! u will be bringing them out even further???? will u have enough play with the wiring...i think not...strip an re tile..best off

[Steviep]

Thanks for the speedy replies! Appreciate your advice.

When stripping the existing tiles is there is way to take the existing adhesive off, or do i just need to plaster over it to provide a flat surface?

Thanks again.

[brian c]

soak the old adhesive with water and leave 10mins then scrape off

[Fekin]

A good orbital sander does wonders too

[tfs]

If its plasterboard walls you could use a random orbital sander to remove the adhesive and then prime the walls. In this situation I preffer to just cut out the plaster board at worktop height up to the top tile and then replace with new plasterboard

[tfs]

A good orbital sander does wonders too

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sorry mate started writing my post and then went to get a beer. Must have been writing at the same time

[beanz]

If its plasterboard walls you could use a random orbital sander to remove the adhesive and then prime the walls. In this situation I preffer to just cut out the plaster board at worktop height up to the top tile and then replace with new plasterboard

I've often wondered how you would go about this!?! Wouldn't the plasterboard holding the cabinets up lose integrity (i've never fitted a kitchen before, so have no real idea how they are fixed)?

[tfs]

if it an area were its not decorated (beneath the worktop/ behind the untis) its not huge issue but, to overcome this you cut a fillet of timber and put it behind the plaster board so that half is behind the existing plaster board and half will be behind the new.

You screw into the timber through the existing plasterboard, this will hold the timber in place. When fitting the replacement plasterboard you will now have something to fix to.

[Dave]

The tiles have been gloss painted, so need to come off anyway.....Not a suitable substrate to tile too.....

[tfs]

cut out the patch peice in the new timber I use 2x1 or 3x1 peices of pine

[Dave]

I wish all kitchen fitters did that.......thanks for the pics..

[strummerman]

I wish all kitchen fitters did that.......thanks for the pics..

i do dont i

[doug boardley]

deffo not overtile

[bigandy]

Am with all the boys strip those tiles off. I find a four inch razor scraper really good for getting rid of old adhesive

[tfs]

Sorry Stephen the other pics werent too clear.

If you look at the right hand side of the patch I have cut out here you can see the peice of timber that I have patched in.

The timber on the left is the stud