Taking up adhesive and ply

[aflemi]

Friend of mine had his new bathroom fitted £6k worth, the fitter sub-contracted tiling. The tiles are lifting because tiler only used 6mm ply and non flexible adhesive. Friend held back £500 as this was quickly obvious before final bill paid, but he's been quoted £1200 to replace, including tile cost. I was wondering best way of removing both adhesive and ply, I have done this before on a small area and it was a nightmare as screwheads covered in rock hard adhesive. Any quick way to do this??

[Swanseajack]

SDS Drill will be the quickest way to remove tiles/adhesive if possible, if not hammer and bolster. If the floor has only been over laid with 6mm ply and screw heads are not easy to access, you would assume the fixing would not be upto much either, short screws and not many of them.
The best way to lift ply, would to be start at door way using a gorilla bar and gently prise ply up to minimize damage to sub floor. It should come up reasonably easy. I would charge day rate for this type of job.

[tfs]

Hi,

an alternative to liftingthe ply would be to abrade all the adhesive using belt sander or some other abrasive tool and then lay an additional sheet over ply over the 6mm ply already in place (thicker than 6mm ofcourse... lol). Removing the old adhesive wouldnt take to long this way. Use a contruction adhesive as well as screw to fix over 6mm ply (gripfill or pinkgrip etc).

[aflemi]

Thanks TFS, I was thinking this may be an option, if the increased height was too much of an issue, 6mm backerboard over the 6mm ply should work, no?

[tfs]

Yes, backerboard should be fine to.

just be sure to select fixings that will go throught backerboard, the ply and and into the floor boards.

[Leatherface]

Friend of mine had his new bathroom fitted £6k worth, the fitter sub-contracted tiling. The tiles are lifting because tiler only used 6mm ply and non flexible adhesive. Friend held back £500 as this was quickly obvious before final bill paid, but he's been quoted £1200 to replace, including tile cost. I was wondering best way of removing both adhesive and ply, I have done this before on a small area and it was a nightmare as screwheads covered in rock hard adhesive. Any quick way to do this??

Guess the guys will not come back to put it right ?
One for the hall of shame me thinks ?

[aflemi]

He's loathe to shell out another £1200 so in no rush, I have too much to do at the moment. When that or my full-time job finishes (probably pretty soon..............) I intend to have a look (take pics) and probably offer my services if I think it's do-able for less. I'll post them then.

[Leatherface]

What a( DO NOT SWEAR)
Hate people who do a bad job and give the trade a bad name, more to the point will not come back and put it right !!

Cowboys !!!!

[Dave]

The ply needs to come up....and propper prep work done.....How do you know that floorboards etc were even fixed properly and not just nailed...

As for just overboarding someone elses mistake.........


The floor wants doing properly and no short cuts.....

[doug boardley]

circular saw and jemmy bar to my mind I'm afraid

[CJ]

Fraid its.........YouTube - orange juice - rip it up

[doug boardley]

Fraid its.........YouTube - orange juice - rip it up

strangely drawn to the colour "orange" aren't you CJ lol

[Fred]

I agree with Dave, put it right once and for all.

[CJ]

strangely drawn to the colour "orange" aren't you CJ lol

Funny you should say that..............

[cornish_crofter]

Dave's right.

You may do a good job of securing the ply to the boards, even screwing through the ply already there, but if he's not ensured that the boards are screwed down to the joists correctly then, regardless of the tile spent faffing about with the boards, you risk the same problem as before.

If this chap was recommended by the tile company, then your friend should have a quiet word with the tile co. They may take this on board and help with the cost of replacement materials. Alternitively he could ask them for the other £700 on this basis. He could always use the small claims court.

I hope the person who did it comes by this forum, pretty good chance he may. He may not recognise this particular thread but would be well advised to read up and respond accordingly.