Pricing

[jones the tile]

Hi Guys, how are you all doing with recent quotes ? I have just qouted for a kitchen splashback approx 3msq in total including windowsill. 10X10 tiles to be used and all old tiles to be removed and surface to be made good. I included white star adhesive and antibacterial grout and trim ( altogether about £50 quids worth of materials ). The job would have taken me 3 days ! The customer has informed me that a family friend is now doing it CHEAPER ! You wonder why we bother sometimes !!! IS IT ME !!!

[LM Ceramics]

did you charge a day rate? if you did i think 3 days is abit long for a 3m2 kitchen

[doug boardley]

if you up your post count mate, you can get in the forum arms where we can dicuss pricing

[bigandy]

agree half day stripping out and repair and most of tiling for afternoon depending on amount of repair

[Dave]

We don't discuss pricing outside the tilers arms...

[timeless john]

If the tiles were well fixed you could have tiled on tile, if they had to come off and make good 1 day max. If not well fixed they should have come off in 1-2 hours! And 3sq mts with sockets and window cills possibly a days work - but of course I've not seen the job.

[davy_G]

As per the other guys, 3 days work seems a bit much, depends on your speed i suppose and the state of the walls after removal.

[lucius]

Its a days work might be a late one but thats it.
Lucius

[mikethetile]

this is something we all have to get used to

people are watching their finances and theres a lot of blokes laid off or on short time

this family friend could be an out of work chippy or other trade thats able to tile

i have to agree that 3 days does seem a bit long to stick 3m2 but i havent seen the job or the extent of making good

when things get the way they are now you can compete on price........not a good idea

or you can offer value for money,

a first class and professional service making your customers feel valued and special,

and charge a first class and professional rate

i hope this helps

mike

[david campbell]

i would say thats a days work also,maybe grout it the next day if it's getting on a bit,maybe the customer just wanted it done a bit quicker m8!
don't worry about it you won't get every job you price!

[brian c]

3 days.you using a tyooth brush

[JC tiling]

now now brian c... not everyone is up to speed...! this lad might be a newbis.. but i wud say a day to clean up and tile then nipp round and grout and GET THE MONEY LOL

[jones the tile]

Ah well, thanks for all your input guys, but I would still prefer to do a proper job and take my time rather than a quickie, so I will just live and learn ! Onward and Upwards !!

[timeless john]

One and half days is a proper job! I may be out of order but I thought this was a TILERS forum.

[jones the tile]

As you said, You have not seen the job !!!!!!!!

[Dave]

One and half days is a proper job! I may be out of order but I thought this was a TILERS forum.

It is....wots up?

[doug boardley]

If the tiles were well fixed you could have tiled on tile, if they had to come off and make good 1 day max. If not well fixed they should have come off in 1-2 hours! And 3sq mts with sockets and window cills possibly a days work - but of course I've not seen the job.

3 ...1/2 days imo ,(1/2 day prep, 1/2 day tile, 1/2 day grouting)

[P'boro tiler]

does nobody charge for siliconing?
i would charge more like 2.25 days (the 0.25 is for popping back to silicone)

[doug boardley]

no, do that as they're writing cheque, will call in on way home

[timeless john]

A man goes on a course and then after 2 years estimates a job at the rate of 1metre a day for 3 days! He ponders over the reason why he doesn't get the job and wonders whether all the effort is worth it. Then 95% of forum input is giving him positive feedback i.e. 3 days is too long, and his response is - 'I would rather do a proper job than a quickie' -Thats what's up Dave.

[graham31]

A man goes on a course and then after 2 years estimates a job at the rate of 1metre a day for 3 days! He ponders over the reason why he doesn't get the job and wonders whether all the effort is worth it. Then 95% of forum input is giving him positive feedback i.e. 3 days is too long, and his response is - 'I would rather do a proper job than a quickie' -Thats what's up Dave.

What would you rather do run him down make fun of him tell him he's no good then the member dosn't post or ask questions agian for the fear of bein made a fool of.

Yeah 3days seems excessive but you haven't seen the job............So if it takes Jones The Tiler 3days to do a good job thats what it takes him.

We give good constructive and helpful advice on this forum.Thats what the forums built on not making making fun of members and running them down so they never come back

[beanz]

I think if you want to take 3 days to get it perfect, that's fair enough, but i'd hope you are doing it at a reduced day rate? I'm very slow (newbie), but i wouldn't dream of charging the day rates that the big boys charge. It's not the customers fault i'm slow after all.

[faithhealer]

A man goes on a course and then after 2 years estimates a job at the rate of 1metre a day for 3 days! He ponders over the reason why he doesn't get the job and wonders whether all the effort is worth it. Then 95% of forum input is giving him positive feedback i.e. 3 days is too long, and his response is - 'I would rather do a proper job than a quickie' -Thats what's up Dave.

Hi John, Agree with Graham here, I used to use the plumbers forum but got sick of the slagging off newbies ALWAYS got. We pride ourselves on this forum with helping everyone, 9000 plus members speaks for itself. This tiler will either get better with our advice or will change his career one day. Customers are often on here with their queries too so not just pro tilers on here John

[timeless john]

Thanks for explaining the virtues of a forum.
If I wrote the comments about slagging off, telling him he couldn't do the job, making fun, running him down or making a fool of him then I would agree - but I didn't go there .
However I answered a question with more constructive input than that only to be told I wasn't doing the job properly.
As far as diplomacy is concerned it has never been my strongest point and if jones the tiler is upset then his retort - You havn't seen the job -was just about spot on.

[Toppa]

How many posts do you have to post to get into the tilers arms where pricing talk is allowed?

[mikethetile]

hi toppa

keep posting and you will be invited to the pub

its about twenty fivish

[smurf21]

Newbie or not your never gonna win a job quoting 3 days work for 3m2 strip and prep 1/2 day leave to dry and retile next day 3m2 1/2 day max still only 1 days work. but we all live and learn. and just because someone isnt up to speed doesnt mean they should charge this to the customer....take the cut till you are up to speed.

[mikethetile]

smurf is right in that you cant expect the client to pay for your lack of speed, which is why its best to give a price

i think this is an old thread and dou bt if the op is going to read it

[LM Ceramics]

smurf is right in that you cant expect the client to pay for your lack of speed, which is why its best to give a price

i think this is an old thread and dou bt if the op is going to read it

im sorry but i have to agree with you and smurf on this there is no way you can charge a full day rate on 3 days for a 3m2 if you got the job then fair play but most customers arent that stupid. my advice is if your slow at tiling then have a set price for the ob if it means dropping your day rate to get the job the fine