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Discuss any one done one of these? in the Tiling Forum at TilersForums; hi all, Just finished this little splashback and whilst not strictly tiling I thought i would have a go as it seemed to be another string to the violin. It ...
          
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    hi all,

    Just finished this little splashback and whilst not strictly tiling I thought i would have a go as it seemed to be another string to the violin. It was for a friend, so the dreaded mates rates but with breakfast lunch and coffee and sticky buns on tap. i was really surprised at how straightforward it was, it took 3 hours total to paint the glass(couple of coats making sure no air bubbles) and another 2 hours to stick the backing on and fix to the wall. Materials, excluding the glass, cost about £45 and i think it looks really sharp. i also seem to have finally got my silicone technique happening, this was done without masking. Glass shop wanted £250 to paint and put the backing on alone.seems to be a really nice alternative to tiles if you want a nice clean finish. Friend now wants the rest of the wall on the right hand side doing the same way, so i guess they are happy too.
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    Looks good, has this 'glass 'got a name?
    Good siliconing by the way

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    Quote Originally Posted by faithhealer View Post
    Looks good, has this 'glass 'got a name?
    Good siliconing by the way
    Hi Faithhealer,

    yes, 6mm toughened, the paint was white but as the glass has a slightly green tint the colour ended up a nice light bluey green. Best thing i bought for this job was 2 of the glass suckers from screwfix otherwise I would have had no chance of positioning it properly...they will also prove very usefull on my next job positioning large format porcelane tiles.

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    looks nice m8!,probably have a go at it myself,as more people are looking to do this instead of tiling nowadays unfortunately

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    Quote Originally Posted by redrex View Post
    Hi Faithhealer,

    yes, 6mm toughened, the paint was white but as the glass has a slightly green tint the colour ended up a nice light bluey green. Best thing i bought for this job was 2 of the glass suckers from screwfix otherwise I would have had no chance of positioning it properly...they will also prove very usefull on my next job positioning large format porcelane tiles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bolter View Post
    What happens if there is a socket?
    very good point

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    dont want to promote this or we will all be on the rock and roll.(dole)

    looks good though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by faithhealer View Post
    Looks good, has this 'glass 'got a name?
    Good siliconing by the way
    george....lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bolter View Post
    What happens if there is a socket?
    hi Bolter,

    There where 2!


    Only joking....asked myself this question and you have 2 choices, either get the glass supplier to do the cuts when the glass is ordered, making sure the measurements are spot on as apparently you can't cut the glass after the toughening process...or, as i did, have a go with another bit of glass and see what happens......i used my makita hand held and tried a couple of plunge cuts very gently and whilst the edges where very sharp, they would have been hidden behind the sockets. the ideal would be to have them pre-cut as i wouldn't fancy breaking a large sheet of toughened glass as this would wipe out all of your profit replacing it.

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    There can be problems with post formation cutting into toughened glass, even after it is done and seems fine. It should be ordered with any cut outs. I hope it all stays sound for you though - how long has it been in now?

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    And....it helps if the friend in question is a loverly girl you have known since you where 18....and has no issues in 'inspecting' your work in only a largeT-shirt coz i'm at her house and 'we have known each other for so long, i know your not bothered if i don't get dressed when your here'
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    PS she has an 8 months old baby...so hasn't got the energy to get dressed...it's not for my benefit but nice all the same.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CBTC View Post
    There can be problems with post formation cutting into toughened glass, even after it is done and seems fine. It should be ordered with any cut outs. I hope it all stays sound for you though - how long has it been in now?
    2 days....hasn't fallen off yet....so I guess its there for keeps...

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    and always have elf and safety in mind cutting glass........
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    The only thing i dislike about this is the way it's finished at the top. It would've been nice if it was fully shaped in, but i imagine that would've cost the earth! Apart from that, it's a really nice clean look.

    btw, what did you use to fix it?

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    Was a cardboard template used to get the exact dimensions and profile of wall etc?

    Looks good!

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    As a builder I've done a few of these in my time and can be very expensive!! but my Brother happens to be a manager of a glass firm so I can do them quite cheap (well cheaper). But as a rule of thumb socket cut outs are about £45 each. It is always better to get the glass company to measure up as any mistakes made for cut-outs will then be down to them, most don't charge for this. Laminated glass is much cheaper for splash backs as it doesn't have to go through the same processes and can be cut at any time, you can get many different colours although if you are going for a certain shade then clear laminated then painted is better. Alway be wary of what adhesive you use to attach the splash back as some can degrade the paint after time and show through.

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    thank you all for your comments,

    beanz and tfs......the glass was already bought, you are quite right about shaping at the top-i would have had it cut to go around the extractor but my friend is 6 feet tall and her boyfriend 6'7" so no danger of them ever seeing the gap! hence the height of the cupboards being 70cm above the worktop. the measurements where taken by my friend and she played it a bit safe with the length and height. Attached with ceresit adhesive, two tubes used (woke me up nicely). ceresit apparently can't be used to stick glass but I figured that I was sticking the backing to the wall that is stuck to the glass, not sticking the glass itself (if you see what I mean) hence no problems with acid attack on the paint. Anyway, after 15 minutes I couldn't move the glass with my suckers even with both hands and having feet off the ground.

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    I'm guessing it's dot and dab then? but looks different

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    Probably good for on top of the cooker, easy clean
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    Ed,

    Thanks for posting those photos...I've seen something like that here in my area (in a showroom) but never found out exactly what it was.

    Looks nice.

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    Default Re: any one done one of these?

    so redrex,what is this process called.?ive never seen it before.it looks good.may be something to research and try out but maybe have to look online to find out more but dont know what to google for

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    Thanks for the replies again,

    yes, pretty much dot and dab but I used a couple of tubes of adhesive so I guess I got a much higher coverage than strictly neccessary-my thinking being that the adhesive is cheap but the glass isn't, allthough this probably wasn't a bad thing as the wall was very uneven and I had to use the adhesive to build up a couple of areas. The only slight problem was that the adhesive goes off so quickly that you only have a small time to make any adjustments once it is stuck on but i figured that if 100 kg of me can't shift it, even with the suckers, then it is probably going to stay up! oh and keep all the windows and doors open....lots of fumes!

    There isn't much on t'interweb but try variations of 'how to paint and install a glass splashback' when searching. Oddly the most difficult thing was the backing plastic, this seem to only be available through glaziers and for a small area thats fine but a larger area you would want to buy a roll....the only company that I have found that seems to do the correct stuff is a company called Purlfrost based in North London, I will be calling them on Monday to have a chat.

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    Default Re: any one done one of these?

    I've made quite a few of these now. Started off buying the glass, but now I buy the stock sheets and cut them to size. I have them toughened, but if they are too long the toughening will bend the glass. Now I make to RAL colours and even do a silver glitter.
    I find tilers are great at fixing them 'cause they're good at measuring up.

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