Help!: re fitting toilet

[lcjohno]

hi all, wondering if anyone could help me, i've fit ply to a bathroom floor and removed the toilet to do so. When i've come to refit the toilet the waste pipe is not inline anymore as the toilet has been raised due to the ply. Is there anyway round this problem. Hope i made sense.

[Colour Republic]

Is it going straight into a ridge 4" soil pipe? or is there another fitting between the toilet and soil pipe? and also how far does the ridged part of the pipe extend into the room?

[macten]

You need an offset pan connector - only about a fiver from a plumbers merchant

[kilty55]

fit a flexi waste pipe?

[faithhealer]

hi all, wondering if anyone could help me, I've fit ply to a bathroom floor and removed the toilet to do so. When I've come to refit the toilet the waste pipe is not inline anymore as the toilet has been raised due to the ply. Is there anyway round this problem. Hope i made sense.

There are lots of different fittings mate.
Pan connectors can be straight, offset angled, flexi.
Best bet, take the one that came off, (wash throughly) measure the offset you now have and take it to a plumbers merchant and they will sort you out.

[Dave]

You want one of these..

[365drills]

We need more information about the situation

1) Is the soil stack solid (clay or cast iron plastic)
2) Is it at horizontal or vertical
3) can you move the stack?

Let me try and guess. I recon you have a solid stack with an elbow and that the toilet "pushes" back onto the stack. Rather than fitting over the top.

The toilet is china so your options are limited to:
1) Try and move the stack (does it have any give)
2) Try to fit a moveable collar.
3) Adapt the soil stack (cut a piece out and fit a new collar)

In my house we had a cast iron stack and it was easier to rip it out and refit a plastic pipe.

[cornish_crofter]

It's a bit drastic replacing the soil stack just to sort out the pan.

If it was a straight pan connector, which I suspect it was I would go for an offset pan connector as has been said. But go to a decent plumber's merchants, don't go to B&Q, they're stocking really poor quality ones at the moment.

[Colour Republic]

Not all of the suggestions will work; it all depends on what is there now. Some of the connectors will move the toilet away from the wall unless the soil pipe can be shortened to accommodate any new fitting; most connectors will have a little bit of play certainly the 18mmor so that the floor has been raised.

If the toilet has a separate cistern and pan then the extra distance will not matter although a new flush pipe might be needed as well, but if it's a close coupled WC then the problem can only really be sorted at the soil pipe.

So my guess is that the toilet is going straight in to a ridged soil pipe and has been sealed with 'plumbers mate' or something similar. So the easiest solution is to shorten the soil pipe to allow for the correct connector. Which could be 1 of 4

[Eddie]

I agree with C,C if an off set connector fits go with that, if not, try the flexi, Dave suggests

[simhopper]

flexis are for cowboys

use a 20mm offset pan connector

keeps the cost down £4 instead of £10

[Dave]

flexis are for cowboys

use a 20mm offset pan connector

keeps the cost down £4 instead of £10

Why??.. i know a few firms who use them..

[simhopper]

Why??.. i know a few firms who use them..

Most will grease them.....if you bend them they fall of the pan over time,if you dont grease sometimes the seals tear

The resistance unless it has a good fall can cause blockages to occur

Sometimes there can come in handy for non standard angles

I worked in a block of 300 flats in Edinburgh,all used flexi pan connectors,all failed a drainage air test

Use solid pipe and multiquik pan connectors

[Dave]

Arn't multiquick a form of flexi then..? or just a flexi joint on them..

[Sir Ramic]

flexis are for cowboys

use a 20mm offset pan connector

keeps the cost down £4 instead of £10

20mm ???? Errrrmmmmmmmmmmmmm

[simhopper]

Arn't multiquick a form of flexi then..? or just a flexi joint on them..

Multiquick is just a brand name,best on the market as the rubber is soft and flexable

Multikwik Straight Pan Connector (Pan Connectors: Straight)

[doug boardley]

multiquicks are a cross between the two aren't they? a kind of offset short flexi?

[lcjohno]

wow, great response from everyone! I'm gonna go for a new offset pan connector, i'll try and get hold of one tomo. Cheers for the help, eased my worries

[faithhealer]

Fixing a toilet tomorrow in a block of flats. All the toilets have one soil stack which was put in at the wrong height 40 yrs ago. All the soil pipes are too near the floor so the offset required is about 3" over a length of only 7". I wished I could use a flexi but they won't scrunch up enough. Only option is putting two offsets together.
Three other options, build a box behind the cistern to give a better length,
get the owners of the flats to replace the soil stack!!! Not
or do, as one flat has done, sink the toilet into the floor two inches!!!!!!! Deffo Not

[Gazebo]

You are right about flexi pan connectors they need a certain distance between soil pipe and spigot on toilet to be able to 'flex'. I try an avoid them if poss as they are prone to popping off the spigot on the w/c and also they dont have a smooth internal surface it is ribbed same as the exterior and i will leave it up to you guys to imagine what fills those internal ridges up over a few months (winnie the ....)
Mcalpine and Multiquik are branded pan connectors and come in various guises as previously mentioned.There is also a 40mm offset available if you wish to raise the toilet that high after fixing 18mm ply,tiles and addy.or just move it left/right a little.

[mikethetile]

now now boys calm down

flexies are a last resort when nothing will line up, theres nothing cowboy about them

an offset will usually sort this but if not use a flexi