advice for chipboard wall

[gizmo]

hi, just been to look at a job and the guy wanted me to tile on tiles but had a good check of the tiles that were on and some were loose and they very easy to pull off with my hand, i noticed behind the tiles that the walls were chipboard, so i told the guy they all need to come off and start from scratch as it wont be safe which he wasn't to happy about but agreed in the end,
Just wondered if any of you guys had any advice for the chipboard wall, shall i re-board it or is there a primer that will do the trick as the customer is moaning to keep the cost down, the tiles he wants fitted are 40x25 satin ceramic floor to ceiling, thanks

[brian c]

rip it off and put plasterboard up..chipboard on walls...first i have heard of that.

[gizmo]

rip it off and put plasterboard up..chipboard on walls...first i have heard of that.

thats what i thought when i saw it, couldn't believe my eyes, top floor loft conversion done on the cheap by the looks of it, was thinking of plasterboard but needed a second opinion, cheers

[doug boardley]

I've heard of chipboard walls being tiled onto Gizmo, but only 'cos it's always failed. Rip it all out and start from scratch. If customer's not happy about this, walk away with your reputation intact!

[2Balls]

I would definatly replace the chipboard!!!

[graham31]

I'm finding that when i'm doing est and you tell the customer whats needed they're not
to happy.Always looking for the cheapest way which isn't the right way.
Went to do a quote told the guy bits need plastering(he'd tried it himself big mess)big humps
behind the sink needed leveling,told him i'd do prep work.Left without the job with him saying i've got your number.So i suspect he'll just keep going till he'll get someone in to do it the way it is.

Oh and he had all the best of addy Bal so again i suspect he was gony try it himself and got cold
feet.

Sorry for hijacking your post Gizmo

[david campbell]

graham have you not noticed we are losing out on jobs with shower cubicles because guys can quote about £100 cheaper cause they don't intend tanking,when you explain to the customer this needs done they look at you like your some sort of rip-off merchant

[gizmo]

graham have you not noticed we are losing out on jobs with shower cubicles because guys can quote about £100 cheaper cause they don't intend tanking,when you explain to the customer this needs done they look at you like your some sort of rip-off merchant

i get that all the time, cant stand tilers that wear stetsons

[swiftfix]

if the chipboard is still sound,and not bulged with the water possibly getting in.i would get some latex tanking paint and seal it all up then tile over that.

[keraldine]

with that size tile it might be worth checking out the weight too ,chip board can break down so easily.
Might be worth carrying the leaflets for the tanking kits on you guys just so when they look at you like you have three heads you can show them why you are reccomending it

[Leatherface]

Replace with plasterboard, or preferably plywood

[whitebeam]

Or Hardie backer

[graham31]

graham have you not noticed we are losing out on jobs with shower cubicles because guys can quote about £100 cheaper cause they don't intend tanking,when you explain to the customer this needs done they look at you like your some sort of rip-off merchant

Just noticed in general customers don't want to listen.I think that they think their getting fleeced but they will get someone that will come in and do it the way they want.

Even after taking a good while explaining WHY it was just a case of "i've got your number"

[Leatherface]

Or Hardie backer

Aye
forgot to mention that

[whitebeam]

How many times have we seen on this forum a cheap job and then total devastation then cost to replace, when will some learn that good advise should be listened to and acted upon

[brian c]

just a thought...sometimes when we are explaining to customers whats required..maybe we are forcing the issue and they dont like it...i know we are advising them on the proper procedure but as said some people just want the job done as cheap as possible.Keraldine hit the nail on the head ..give them a leaflet or some form of explanitory leaflet ,so they have a better understanding of what is required.

[graham31]

Maybe a idea to type up some do's and don't on prep,what can be tiled onto what can't and leave with the customer if their still hymning and hoeing