Discuss Newbies - Envelope cutting to a fall in the Tiling Forum at TilersForums; Just wondered if any of the new tilers out there needed any advice about envelope cutting to a fall ?
Sure many of the experienced tilers out there would be ...
Just wondered if any of the new tilers out there needed any advice about envelope cutting to a fall ?
Sure many of the experienced tilers out there would be willing to help and advise.
Not hard when you know how
Here are a couple I did a while ago.
Yes the black ones have not been cleaned properly yet.
No I did not set it out off square by mistake as the tiles went into the main bathnroom and my set out was dictated by the other walls and doorway ( just in case anyone wanted to mention )
Regards
On the black 1 nick......why the closure tile..?...
was due to fall on tray after tiles had been put over UFH on tray, steeper than normal. To put a full ( uncut tile ) there ( instead of a join ) would have increased the bedding up height on the tiles in the main bathroom, the customer wanted the tiles in the main bathroom to end up flush with their wood floor ( in the adjoining corridor, outside the bathroom door )
Hope i am making sense
TO ADD :
The closure line was where the wedi wet tray joined with the main floor
Last edited by Leatherface; 21-01-2009 at 09:12 PM.
Here's one for a rectangular former, square Tilux former with equal amounts cut off each side.
I think Leatherface's job is better IMO, mind you I can see why my customer wanted black grout. These tiles are B&Q, about £6.98 per 6 IIRC. These were all over the floor. I laid 27 of the buggers and had to cut all but 8 of them!
now i know that many of you will disagree with me but i think and always have that all envelope or tray tiling look rubbish,and with porcelain tiles especially it can be bloody dangerous.
i know that other than mosaic there are not any other options,but you would think that there would be someone out there making tiles with true edges to fit trays,ok there are many tray sizes and designs but that can be narrowed down to 4 or 5 trays sizes and 3 or 4 designs as standard.
many years ago firms like langleys used to make tiles for this sort of job as well as tiles for creating panels ie: on the angle where the rough cut comes upto the good edge of a tile,this also looks rubbish and is dangerous at times.
what do you guys say,apart from ( NO SWEARING PLEASE) that is
When I did my former I didn't have a lot of depth to the glaze on the tiles (B&Q). So I made every effort to grout right to the top surface of the tiles, and profile the grout ever so gently.
now i know that many of you will disagree with me but i think and always have that all envelope or tray tiling look rubbish,and with porcelain tiles especially it can be bloody dangerous.
i know that other than mosaic there are not any other options,but you would think that there would be someone out there making tiles with true edges to fit trays,ok there are many tray sizes and designs but that can be narrowed down to 4 or 5 trays sizes and 3 or 4 designs as standard.
many years ago firms like langleys used to make tiles for this sort of job as well as tiles for creating panels ie: on the angle where the rough cut comes upto the good edge of a tile,this also looks rubbish and is dangerous at times.
what do you guys say,apart from ( NO SWEARING PLEASE) that is
Don't mind the look myself, if customer wants it and is prepared to pay for it, then they can have it.
With that in mind : a tiler mate of mine told me of a job he did for a lady, was a kitchen floor in travertine. She insisted that she wanted the tiles on her kitchen floor laid with the good face down - he tried his best to convince her otherwise, she insisted that was what she wanted. Tiles were sealed and grouted, filling up all the holes. He thought it looked awful but she was over the moon with it !
Mentalist !
Could use the fein with the polishing pads as well Nick, what polishing pads do you use with your grinder
Don't know the exact term for them , but they look like black sandpaper.
Did also invest in a set of proper diamond pads ( the different coloured plasticy looking ones) But they tend to burn the tiles. This is because they should run a lot slower than my grinder will allow. Hope to invest in a proper polisher at some stage. They acheive an outstanding result.
You can now utilise your Multimaser for stone polishing
Really useful for edge polishing stone and porcelain tiles round window reveals and external corners when a trim looks ugly etc.
Remove scratches from the face of stone. Polish away lippage between tiles etc
Will polish all stone types even porcelain
Consists of:
40 x sanding sheets 5 of each: 40, 80, 120, 220, 320, 400, 600, 800, 1 x aluminium backed mounting pad, and 1 x plastic backed mounting pad and 1 x felt polishing pad (use with buffing paste - not inc).
Use a small amount of water to lubricate the face of the sanding sheets
Will polish all stone types even porcelain (NOT GLAZED PORCELAIN)
Fits both older (round spindle) and new machines (star spindle)
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Originally Posted by Dave 
......thanks for the pics....
..lol.....thanks for the pic...
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