Rendering

[pendleh]

Hi Guys

What is rendering and is it a common task for a tiler - thanks.

Howard

[doug boardley]

rendering is sand and cement plastering, not commonly done by tilers, in great areas, it's a plasterers domain. Why you asking Howard?

[pendleh]

Hi Doug

Im thinking of doing plastering and possibly plumbing. Yorkshire Tile Academy say that it is sometimes needed to complete the whole job! Please advise!

Howard

[doug boardley]

Plastering is actually my trade Howard, altho' I've managed to steer clear of it thankfully for the last few years. To be honest, it's damned hard work that takes it's toll on every joint in your body. It'll be handy for you if it's just to patch in so you can get on with your tiling, but unless you're a young fella I'd not bother going into it on a grand scale!

[pendleh]

Hi Doug

Plastering is actually my trade Howard, altho' I've managed to steer clear of it thankfully for the last few years. To be honest, it's damned hard work that takes it's toll on every joint in your body. It'll be handy for you if it's just to patch in so you can get on with your tiling, but unless you're a young fella I'd not bother going into it on a grand scale!

What kinda patch in jobs would a tiler do? How would I go about levelling a wall to +2 -2mm over 2 metres?

Howard

[doug boardley]

Hi Doug



What kinda patch in jobs would a tiler do? How would I go about levelling a wall to +2 -2mm over 2 metres?

Howard

to be honest Howard you could probably get that out with your adhesive. Any more than about 3mm to about 5mm I'd use a rapid set adhesive and fill out prior to tiling

[whitebeam]

Plastering is actually my trade Howard, altho' I've managed to steer clear of it thankfully for the last few years. To be honest, it's damned hard work that takes it's toll on every joint in your body. It'll be handy for you if it's just to patch in so you can get on with your tiling, but unless you're a young fella I'd not bother going into it on a grand scale!

I'm with Doug on this but still do it in smaller doses nowadays

[oogabooga]

Howard, rendering can be a handy skill to acquire and if you get the chance to get some training I'd suggest you take it up. It could give you an advantage over your competition on some jobs. Like Doug says though, it's very hard on the body and not something I would want to do full time.

[pendleh]

Hi Guys

Thanks for the replies. What substrate is most likely to be rendered breezeblock or brick? Thinking of new houses.

Howard

[doug boardley]

these days, internal masonry walls are usually dot a dabbed with plasterboard as opposed to renderig

[pendleh]

these days, internal masonry walls are usually dot a dabbed with plasterboard as opposed to renderig

Not good for tiling in terms of weight?

Howard

[doug boardley]

plasterboard isn't so bad, for weight ratios, (32kg m2 I think) as long as it isn't skimmed as this reduces it down to about 20kg Howard

[pendleh]

plasterboard isn't so bad, for weight ratios, (32kg m2 I think) as long as it isn't skimmed as this reduces it down to about 20kg Howard

Hi Doug

Only thinking that if they are heavy tiles you would render the wall in terms of strenght?

Best Wishes

Howard

[doug boardley]

if the tiles were that heavy, I'd be inclined to use a hardibacker type board. These will bear more weight than even s/c render.

[pendleh]

plasterboard isn't so bad, for weight ratios, (32kg m2 I think) as long as it isn't skimmed as this reduces it down to about 20kg Howard

if the tiles were that heavy, I'd be inclined to use a hardibacker type board. These will bear more weight than even s/c render.

Hi Doug

How would you secure the hardibacker can you explain or would you just dot n dab - thanks.

Howard

[doug boardley]

I'd use a rapid set flexi adhesive trowelled onto the wall, with a notched trowel. place board on and use a feather/straight edge to make sure its flat and even. For added piece of mind you could also plug and screw boards

[pendleh]

Hi Doug if there are no studs how would you secure it with screws - thanks m8.

Best Wishes

Howard

[doug boardley]

by drilling into brick/block wall and plugginig and screwing Howard

[whitebeam]

Almost all dry linning in new propertys is tape jointed now so you should not have to much problem with skim coats